his name was lee rigby. he was 25. foundation has been given this house on the grounds of a country estate. lee rigby house will provide an escape for families whose loved ones have been killed while serving their country. lynn says she wants to offer more support for the families of bereaved soldiers because of the lack of support on offer for her own family when lee died. well, this is the kitchen. we have a few of the veterans working on it at the minute. military veterans and friends have been giving up their spare time to get the house ready. so how much of a help have the veterans been? they have been absolutely amazing. i can't thank them enough. they'll be using this as well. they're just trying to give something back i think. lee rigby house will have the space for two families to stay at the same time and there are plans to open another house for veterans too. this is another living room... what would it have meant for you to have had somewhere like this to come after what happened with lee? it would have mea

and here he was trying to be interviewed on television are trying to celebrate the fact that lee rigbyth him, khuram butt shouted an arabic term for traitor. it is what isis uses they don't like you, and then they kill you, or behead you, calling me a government stooge. we know this circle of people have actively been involved in glorifying and celebrating terrorism, yet our authorities, despite the bosom authorities reporting that, haven't done anything. and there are serious question marks one about resources, what the government cut in police numbers, and other issues around police budgets, but more importantly, what information did the intelligence services know? what did they do with that information, and what lessons can be learned? we cannot allow happened on saturday and what happened in manchester happen again in our country. what the security services would say is they did monitor him, but there was no sign that he was actually planning an attack. they might have been aware of his attitude, of his opinions, but there was no concrete evidence that he was planning something. wh

you see here a photo of the murder of lee rigby carried out by two known extremists. what is particularly alarming about this case is the fact that this man that we were talking about had links to a suspect in the london bombings back in 2005, so quite a while ago. according to the times, this 27 euros man worked for a man accused of helping to train the july 7 bombing ringleader. a lot of papers are alarmed by these revelations that have come out in the times that perhaps this man was known for quite a while. police say there was no intelligence to suggest that this attack was being planned, so therefore they prioritize the investigation accordingly. >> another big story coming out of the gulf, which has been hit by its dip -- biggest of the medical's in years. several nations have cut ties with qatar. in thes front-page news region, it is getting a lot of attention. a lebanese paper talks about how doha has been ostracized from the sunni camp which accuses qatar of destabilizing the region. according to them, what is really happening here, other gulf states want to

we will be speaking live to lyn rigby and lee's sister. how is it possible that no one yet

that was more than was reported after the murder of lee rigby in 2013 and the paris attacks in 2015.nd here, the feeling is, as soon as there is an act of terror there is an immediate association with islam but where muslims are the victims of this, there appears to be a reluctance to announce this and as an act of terror. they accused the bbc, and other news organisations, as being slow in making that point. thank you. just to bring you up to date with what we know, police are treating this as an act of terror. one man is dead and ten other people have been injured here. two of them are ina have been injured here. two of them are in a serious condition. they are being treated in three separate hospitals. that is the latest. back to the studio. a minute's silence has been held across britain to remember the victims of last week's grenfell tower fire. police say they now believe 79 people lost their lives in the tragedy. investigators warn that due to the complex nature of the recovery operation this figure is likely to change. our correspondent richard lister reports. as they assembl

and over the last four years, after the death of fusilier lee rigby, up to the attack on westminsterwarted, 13 attacks because of that intelligence and the ha rd because of that intelligence and the hard work of the police. it is the case, i'm afraid, in the last three months, there have been three attacks which have been "successful". we have ported another five, but the more police we have in communities, the safer we are going to be. so it is pure and simple for you, a question of resources, war money on the police so that there are simply more police officers up and down the uk out in the community? can ijust reassure your views of this. i work closely with the police, and i have worked with the police, and i have worked with the met police over the last 13 months, they are producing efficiencies. they are trying to get rid of any wastage they can. they have got rid of any savings they can make with back office staff, but at the end of the day, there is nothing left to cut. there is nothing left but the bone now. in the last seven yea rs, but the bone now. in the last seven yea r

i was on duty and led the response for the murder of lee rigby.ad mosque attacks, three of which were burned down. very conscious of not having a replay when hate crime went up. it was very much in our strategy to be able to compound against that. in westminster we did that. in manchester it didn't quite work. by london bridge, i think, it overwhelmed us. it's not that we haven't had a focus or we haven't had plans, we have. when you have three on the trot, it's something different. the goal of these terror attacks starting with the killing ofjo cox last year and the three atrocities claimed by islamic state in the last four months, and now this one, is to sow division between communities. the danger is — it's beginning to feel as if they're succeeding. think about what far right or islamophobic terror and islamist terror have in common, on both sides there's a thought that muslims and there's a thought that muslims and the rest of us aren't only in com pletely the rest of us aren't only in completely different tribes but we are at war with each o

we've seen lee rigby, who was chopped to pieces by a follower of al—muhajiroun.ecent attacks at london bridge was an al—muhajiroun supporter. khuram butt was hiding in plain sight. here he is on tv last year with hisjihadi mates. so, why was this group allowed to operate so freely in the uk and do al—muhajiroun supporters still have potency today? i've been investigating al—muhajiroun and its supporters for 16 years, since before the 9/11 attacks. i witnessed their hatred of the west, their supremacist world view, their aggression first—hand. all these people here hate you. come on. they hate you, richard. why did anjem choudary invite us? if they saw you in a dark alleyway... that's a threat. is that a threat? it's not a threat at all. if they saw you in a dark alleyway... are you threatening me? fiilie’eiei iii; e315 been expelled from the uk. choudary was convicted of terrorism offences last year. in 2007, we tried to interview this man... mohammed khan, known as q. he was accused in court of providing military supplies for an al—muhajiroun network in pakistan,

it goes back to lee rigby, the british soldier that was almost beheaded on the streets.e've seen more in israel, this is the classic tactics of the global jihadi threat. >> five plots have been discovered since the manchester attack. >> and what else is attracting the attention of investigators here? >> our attention is being drawn to images with suspects with canisters strapped to their bodies that looked like suicide vests. this is to guarantee martyrdom because police are told to kill, not negotiate. a republican member of the homeland security said the fbi and local police in this country should use the same approach. that seemed to have positive results and tackled mob crime. >> you have to have infiltration and surveillance. you can have all the security in the world. if the security shows up after the fact, the lives have been lost already. >> u.s. government officials told fox over the weekend they had viewed some of the classified intelligence and describing what they saw as some of most severe threats that they've seen in the last decade, shep. >> shepard: than

frankly, a wave that we saw ♪ uk starting in 2013 with the lee rigby attack.tar attack by a british soldier on the streets of south london but this strikes on what islamic state and al qaeda have called for. they've called for for the use of any means possible to attack fellow citizens in the heart of capitals in the mill of western living and life is style. we saw that in paris. we now saw this last night, attacks on pubs and restaurants on a saturday night in london. it also calls for in the wake of a holy war in the month ofra ramadan to attack. it just goes with the attacks that unfortunately we've seen throughout europe which seems to be thickening in pace and scope. >> we heard prime minister theresa may say enough is enough. the question people are asking there but also in the united states what do you do with guys with knives and a van? >> well, this is incredibly difficult to stop. you've got a number of factor, the brush, europeans and even here in the united states we have to deal with. first is the volume of people. british officials have been worr

one of them was involved in the killing of lee rigby, the british soldier who was butchered in the streets of london, the south of london some years ago. so, this is a problem that the uk has been grappling with for quite some time. and theresa may can talk tough all she wants, but as paul said, making these changes are not that easy. the answers are not immediately available. >> james, there's some reporting that police know the identity of the attackers but they're not releasing it to the media or to the public. why wouldn't they? >> i imagine part of that goes to continuing the investigation. maybe they have leads on some other folks, some people that are persons of interest. they want to prevent them from possibly fleeing the country before they can get their hands on them. if we look at this from the perspective of the weaponization of a vehicle, the average car is 4,000 pounds, right? so, 2 tons. and machetes. they don't need to buy a weapon to do this. and in britain, where they have draconian gun control laws, this is the age of isis. this is where our dealing with terror is going

living in pakistan or the middle east and when we examined the middle east and when we examined the lee rigbyand then killed, it was subsequently discovered that two months before he was murdered, one of the murderers was murdered, one of the murderers was in contact through the internet, through facebook, with an extremist in yemen discussing how you kill a british soldier. now, the authorities couldn't get access to that kind of information at the time. facebook is an american—based company. it's answerable to the united states law, but it is not obliged to share information with the british authorities. how would you approach that? if you we re how would you approach that? if you were foreign secretary now, what would you do? i don't want to take anything away police on saturday night because a remarkable response and first responders, but you can understand why people are now seeing details emerge of the killers and are saying, "well, i would have been suspicious. why weren't they?" well, the answer is almost certainly, almost certainly what has happened immediately after this event, m15,

do we see, like in the lee rigby execution where these terrorists executed a british soldier in the middle of london, they stood there and told everyone they were terrorists, they beheaded this individual, and were waiting to die when the armed police came in. is that what this person did? did he carry out an edged weapon attack? did he carry out a knife attack? or did he attempt to flee? or just continue to create crime scenes along the edge? that's how we generally get this categorized in a way from criminality, from emotionally disturbed persons, and then of course the intent of anything they may have said, anything that's in their phone, any messages they may have transmitted. then once we have that, then we'll probably wait a little bit before we call it terrorism. but all the indicators have to be there. >> and we had to, if you will, wait two hours and no doubt it was because of the judicious nature of getting to the point that you've just described here, malcolm. that the metropolitan police as well as the national government were coming together to determine what had actually happ

might have been the most serious one against muslims in a while, but you know the same year that lee rigbyom the mosque, he was walking home from the mosque, he was stabbed and killed. it is not really a new thing for the muslims, but it might be a new thing for wider society to recognise, but women have their scarfs pulled off in the day and are spat on. these kind of things keep happening and we have to look at hamas opinions, what kind of opinions are actually e—six nationsly radicalising you know the people that are responsible for this kind of islamophobic abuse and violent attacks. you wanted to come in... yeah, ifelt violent attacks. you wanted to come in... yeah, i felt like, violent attacks. you wanted to come in... yeah, ifelt like, it's almost become like a nolal thing. it's normalised. it's almost become like, you know, like the norm for muslim women to walk up the street and expect to have their hijabs pulled off and to expect comments being made and i do feel like, it is important and it is, you know reassuring that we have an increased presence of police especially around mo

asked them why did it take so lock, in the london bridge incident it took them six minutes and with lee rigbylice have got to answer why it took them so long. i have got footage of a woman on the floor cove red have got footage of a woman on the floor covered in blood. the ambulance took 40 minutes. i asked a policeman and he said i can't disclose any information. it was reported as a driver has crashed and therefore it wasn't priority. when did people think it was something other than didn'tal collision? when we saw the violence. he was building up we saw the violence. he was building up speed. it was a reaction to what happened in london bridge. it was a premeditated attack. he picked finsbury park. it is a muslim area. it is highly populated. he knew what time prayers was finishing and he came out in the van and he specifically ran the muslims over. it's not fair on muslims. no one feels safe, we can't go to the mosque without looking behind our backs. we have to look behind our backs. we have to look behind our backs to practise our religion. we're living in fear. we shouldn't have to liv

it goes right back to lee rigby the british soldier who was almost beheaded on the streets.o to london for a while. this is not the first attack. we have seen several last two weeks. then their thought goes back to the homeland. are we safe here? and what is the president doing to keep us safe? >> the president understands that his primary responsibility is to secure the safety of all americans. yes, we are redoubling our efforts. whether it's taking the immigration executive order all the way to the supreme court, whether it's unleashing, literally unleashing our agents at the department of homeland security under the incredible leadership of secretary kelly. whether it's reinvigorating the correct use of intelligence, especially in human intelligence, and then, of course, we have to crush them in their heartland. so that is why you see secretary mattis deploying our isis plan to crush the heart of the islamic state in syria and iraq. steve: well, dr. gorka, we know that the president of the united states over the last 24 hours has been tweeting about the travel ban, how we

facing unprecedented levels of threat, we just need to put that into context, in the period from the lee rigbynumber. that is eight in total, eight plots in 70 days is a phenomenal numberlj am afraid we are running out of time as we do on breakfast because of this news story. karen bradley, thank you. going back to charlie shortly. first, the weather. you can tell us what is going on. we are talking about rain. good morning. heavy and persistent rain at times. also windy. some seeing gales, especially round the eastern approaches. and it will turn warmer and the changes direction towards the end of the week. at the moment, heavy rain pouring down steadily in the west through the early part of the west through the early part of the day. heavy rain in the north of wales. and more heavy rain in korea and lancashire accompanied by gusty winds. —— cumbria. northern ireland will have showers. some will be heavy and possibly thundery. the thunder is mainly across scotland. out of the showers and in the sunshine, quite pleasant. the same for northern ireland. out of showers, in the sunshine, pleasant.