i served on boards, i was with leeman brothers. i learned about -- spent a lot of time with ceos and boards of directors. i learned a lot. i took all that experience in as governor. and it's great. it's great to be an executive. it's really a terrific job. i will tell you this, you can't be impatient. you have to be patient. when you want to get mad at people i've learned something. this is true in life. i don't want to like this one person, do you know what i found out? they're probably going to give me the bridge to get out of town when the mob is chasing me. you know, it's really interesting. you don't knock the pieces off the chess board. you don't yell and scream and blame other people. you have to solve problems. carl, i think that's the value of being an executive. just being an executive doesn't matter. you could be a lousy executive. you got to be a good executive because i tell you, if you want to be president of the united states, that's the biggest job there is. i mean, there's two great jobs in america, president and g