that's the qualification for legal assistant. question? president marshall: you can keep reading, but i just want the recommendation. >> oh, ok! commissioner hammer: me, too. >> the court clerk, it will they have high school diploma, four years clerical experience, and one year doing legal or court work. they are experienced with court appearances, court calendars, getting a court reporter, and they understand legal time limits, preparing documents for judge's signatures and a variety of legal paperwork and hearing dates. so for me, and commissioner dejesus can share her thoughts on this, i prefer a court clerk because it seems like that's what we need, someone who can set the calendar and guide our cases and all the work lieutenant reilly works so hard on. it is managing the docket and putting out these tables that we have, making sure our hearings are staffed, and that would allow lieutenant reilly or the future lieutenant to focus on the office work and all the commission meeting work. i would prefer a court clerk. commissioner dejesus:

but legal experts say prop 8 supporters are facing a legal hurdle. >> we're down now to the question of whether the backers of prop 8, what's required, constitutional standing, to be able to bring this appeal. >> reporter: usf constitutional law professor julie nice says legally, the governor and the attorney general should be fighting for the voter-approved marriage ban but both state leaders filed briefs in support of letting marriages resume. so now prop 8 backers must convince the 9th circuit court of appeals that it should be allowed to argue the case. nice says there is a strategic wrinkle. >> i think the backers will think carefully about whether they want a 9th circuit ruling that might have more broad effect across more of the western states or whether they want a united states supreme court ruling. >> reporter: prop 8 supporte supporters can withdraw their appeal, and with same-sex marriages possibly on the calendar for next week, the ariga restaurant in the castro is preparing for wedding parties. >> everybody comes together on events like this. >> reporter: right now, eve

our legal residents required to carry their green cards at all time? guest: the law states they are required to carry evidence of their legal permanent status. host: augusta, georgia. tell us your story. caller: yes, i just filed. i was going to the oath ceremony, but between the test i took, they told me i had a citation, a citation for disorderly conduct, and they told me i could not go through the oath ceremony unless is show good moral character. they dropped my citation and probation. and i am still waiting for that. host: where are you from? caller: i am from tunisia, north africa. i lived here since 1998 with a green card. i got a wife. i went through this process, and i was there until they told me i cannot go through because of that citation. guest: you have to establish a good moral character for five years. if the citation occurred during that five-year period of time, you have to start the clock over again from the time the citation occurred until the time you filed your application. it is not going to permanently bar you. and depending on

i would not say that in many instances, legalizing -- "legal" is a strong term. in our business and sales business, we try to avoid that term. it has many implications. to say something illegal is -- to say something is legal or illegal has a lot of implications. we cannot really say. we can say it does permit it or not permit it. what is or is not authorized is a different statement. we have to be mindful. one thing i wanted to say about jeremy pose a question was, there are quite a few very good people in san francisco to go to if you want to legalize something that had been done without a permit in the past, or you want to get a permit for every model that was done or a bathroom that was added downstairs without a permit, and you feel like your uncle maybe was -- may have done it properly. oftentimes, it is no big deal. it is a good thing to do. there are many companies that specialize in doing just that. you can do that. it depends on your goal. if your goal is to sell the property or to avoid neighbor complete -- there could be two different goals with two d

on tv 36 continuing coverage of today's landmark legal decision. people started gathering about an hour ago in the castro district for a march to city hall. we'll have a live update in 30 minutes on tv 36. that's our report. i'm frank somerville. >> i'm julie haener,. >> for everyone here thanks for joining us. good night. >> good night.

it is a little legal term with huge legal consequences that just may doom prop. 8 backers. >> it's just seems very unlikely that the supreme court or the 9th circuit are going to be able to bail out the prop. 8 backers on this one. >> reporter: the first thing she teaches her students is the concept of standing. >> and standing means that the party bringing the claim has suffered a very specific concrete particular injury that is unique to them. >> reporter: she stresses only parties to a lawsuit can appeal a judge's ruling. so who are the parties? the plaintiffs are two gay couplings. the defends governor schwarzenegger and general really brown. who has never been party, backers of prop. 8. butt right now they are the ones appealing the decision. >> reporter: he said that there is nothing in the evidence that the prop. 8 backers presented the the court in the nearly three-week trial nor was there anything in the motion that they filed for the stay last week that would in way indicate what evidence they have that they have suffered the required injury in order to give the appeal lat cou

because apart from anything else that's demonstrably impossible no government in the world could legalize drugs and control it effectively because that the end result of all of that would be a much worse health problem than we've got at the moment sebastian do you think that's true i mean you do what you really do we didn't like it. bashing it all first of all good effect on our heads i should i'll just put it a quick point to as often happens is people do take the position is that they describe drug use two things either either as criminals or people who need treatment now the vast majority of the router drugs of course. besides the drugs are not criminals and most of them don't need treatment recreational drug users so i think we go look at that as well one third of the population of this country has taken illegal drugs in their lifetime so it's not it was a problem i'm sorry to interrupt sebastian but the problem with all of these things is that the testicle information about illicit subjects is enormously difficult to get hold of the best we can say is that the information that we're

bats where the mexican cartels go to sell their legal marijuana and it's really a matter of the u.s. changing its policies and having this debate to legalize marijuana and the debate to end the war marijuana with philippe calderon and other former latin american presidents who have come out and said it's time to legalize now and president obama needs to come to the table and have this debate but good luck convincing conservative tech this that in order to stop the violence all they have to do is legalize marijuana it's the thinking that you're wasting michael thanks so much for joining us. thank you are we taking a break but just ahead on the show we'll speak to someone right on the arizona border heels of the violence is out of hand and then it's up to him to take matters into his own hands a member of the coaches county militia when we come back. every month we give you the future we'll do you understand how we'll get there and what tomorrow brings the best in science and technology from across russia and around the world. join us for technology update on our g. some americans of d

. >> their marriage isn't legal yet. hoping to say i do soon. >> the woman who brought down the head of hp comes forward. what she says about the scandal and the one thing she denies doing. news starts now. >>> good evening i am ann. the federal judge who over turned proposition 8 has another decision to make, whether to allow same sex couples to marry while the case is appealed. some couples are ready to get married at a moment's notice. ♪ [ music ] >> reporter: vanessa and maria are getting married whether it is legal or not. it is not in the eyes of the state. for now this celebration with family and friends and fancy wedding ceremony without a license will have to do. wednesday, vanessa and maria ran with other same sex couples to city hall after the judge over turned proposition 8 but the judge put a stay on his decision to allow prop 8 people to consider an appeal and vanessa and maria would have to wait some more. many believe as early as monday, judge walker may lift the stay and create a brief window of time to

if there were this decriminalization and legalization of some if not all these drugs would it create a greater public health risk than we have now. i don't think there's any evidence to support that i mean the simple analogy is to look at that kind of misuse in holland where it's at all intents and purposes available through a regulated bodies and kind of its use amongst young people in holland is lower than among young people in the u.k. but i want to disco on to talk about something else about about really following through the strong prohibition policies i mean even if we could catch say the thirty forty biggest kingpins in the world to people of margin for one moment the drugs would cease to exist and the places would be immediately taken by less experienced younger potentially more violent people because the amounts of money the reward this was a so enormous and so significant that people are always going to be replaced and the idea that somehow measuring use of drugs is an indicator is this really not very useful sort of the pond i mean the harm the drugs cause is a much useful

they are operating in a safe and legal manner.inally, an update on the plans for the gore registry. there is a bit of a problem with the corps registry. when the police to permit registers grow operations that are operating outside of city codes, with respect to the building code, the planning code, and the rest -- that is why i am meeting with the other city agencies. we will hopefully have -- will hopefully be able to move forward together in that operation. annex a has the forms supplied by the marijuana advocates. there is some specific information on negro operations. we have seen a criminal one in annex b. annex c is from boulder, colorado, an interesting law with respect to licensing of businesses, record keeping, security, and taxes. i included that for your reading if you are really interested in the marijuana issues throughout the nation. i am happy to answer any questions you have. president marshall: we knew she would be first in line. commissioner dejesus: i appreciate you telling me you were in compliance with the at

does the defense of marriage side have the legal standing to ask for a stay? both sides found something to like and dislike in the developments. jean elle is in san francisco tonight where a lot of couples were left standing at the altar once again. >> reporter: people her in the castro remain hopeful tonight. same-sex couples and businesses are planning for wedding celebrations next week and the constitutional law expert says at this point, prop. 8 supporters face a real challenge ahead. same-sex couples erupt in cheers after hours of waiting, news spread federal judge vaughn walker decided to let marriages resume. >> finally, it's happening. >> reporter: then came the details. weddings can't begin until end of business august 18th. >> i'll be back in another week. >> reporter: while couples wait it out, the legal battle over same-sex marriage moves forward. supporters of prop. 8 appealed walker's decision to overturn the same-sex marriage ban and late tonight asked the ninth circuit court of appeals to halt marriages as long as the case is in court. but prop

an analysis that prop 8 is on legal life support. why? a term called standing, which is a little term that carries huge consequences that just may doom prop 8 backers. >> it just doesn't seem likely they will bail them out on this thing. >> the first thing these students are taught in this class is the concept of standing. >> and standing means that the party bringing the claim has suffered a very specific concrete particular injury that is unique to them. >> professor stresses only parties to a lawsuit can appeal a judge's ruling. so who are the parties? the plaintiffs are two gay couples, the defendants? governor schwarzenegger and attorney brown who never have been sponsors of the suit. but those seeking to appeal it to the ninth circuit court of appeals. >> and judge walker says there is nothing in the evidence that the prop 8 backers presented to the court -- in the nearly three-week trial nor was there anything in the motion that they filed for the stay last week that would in any way indicate what evidence that they have -- th

talk to me about their legal integration taking place in the e.u. particularly about the european arrest warrants european arrest warrant is the first part of the process whereby we are integrating our legal systems with those of the european union and of course what you got to remember is that the anglo-saxon common law or model adopted by the united states and canada and us acts in countries around the world is completely different from the continental napoleonic system now under our system you have to be charged with a specific offense but police have to gather the evidence before you're arrested goes to a trial we have five years corpus all these things that we take for granted on the continent you can be arrested as a suspect you can spend a year or eighteen months in prison while i investigate the case before i even bring it to court against you now under the european arrest warrant we got rid of all the safeguards now if you are required for extradition under european arrest warrant the court deciding on that has really little power to refuse

his legal problems. meanwhile critics say wiki leaks is nothing more than a propaganda organization and its founder a simple cog and the wheel. it could just be a front organization and you could just be the mastermind but he's made out to be much of the media maybe not even the founder of wiki leaks you know sometimes it was founded by chinese dissidents whatever that supposed to mean. but just kind of the use of kind of the front just kind of a mascot and actually do we know more about him. for instance about his i t competence don't you don't you have the skills to develop this supposedly wonderful system for uploading leaks securely which by the way is not currently working. until we know more about it but i think the most plausible hypothesis is that the guy is just kind of a front burner but i think there are very very serious questions to be out about the motivations of the group and even what is the group the point is we know nothing about weekly and until we know more about them we really don't

you're going to legalize or remove it. so, you would need a set of plans too show where the location of the work was and what the work was, probably the big pitfall is plumbing, electrical and structural, installation. you probably will have to take sheet rock off for us to look at the wiring and plumbing and make sure you have the necessary installation. title 24 requirements and we want to see you - or how you constructd the walls. we'll work with you. usually you don't have to pull all the street or sheet rock off. >> somebody has gone down that road and apparently lied to you in terms of what kind of work was done as apposed to what they did. is there an enforcement of a rip out or - how do you approach that? >> it's a pretty brood question. we work with the home eveners of san francisco. you know, it could very well be if you can't legalize it we'll ask you to remove the unit if you have an extra kitchen in a single family dwelling and you can't legalize it, we can ask you to remove it and that can go up to the city a

they are operating in a safe and legal manner. finally, an update on the plans for the gore registry. there is a bit of a problem with the corps registry. when the police to permit registers grow operations that are operating outside of city codes, with respect to the building code, the planning code, and the rest -- that is why i am meeting with the other city agencies. we will hopefully have -- will hopefully be able to move forward together in that operation. annex a has the forms supplied by the marijuana advocates. there is some specific information on negro operations. we have seen a criminal one in annex b. annex c is from boulder, colorado, an interesting law with rpe

we want a legal business. what we're hoping to move towards, and it is going to take a little while, is in san francisco if you want a residential grow you apply for the permit just like if you were trying to model your bathroom. you have an inspection, plans, licensing, and permits. you have an electrical contractor who signs off on your permit. when you go through all the steps, you are set. commissioner hammer: are you in support of such a program working with the health department or something? >> we are in new territory here. we are not going back to the way it was 10 years ago. we are moving forward. there are municipalities to rest the nation taking steps to legalize medicinal marijuana. it is just how each city is going to deal with it and what kind of guidelines they're going to put in place. that is why i included the packet. it is comprehensive. the touch on everything. commissioner hammer: i appreciate your frankness. i am sure everybody here does. the police might be uncomfortable licensing a medi

i would not say that in many instances, legalizing -- the term "legal" is a very strong term. i think in our business, in the sales business, we try to avoid that term because it has many implications. to say something is legal or illegal, it has all the occasions in the world, and nine times out of 10, we cannot say. we can say is permitted or not permitted and authorized or not authorized, so those other little subtleties that we have to be mindful of as well. one thing i wanted to say, back to jeremy's question, was there are quite a few very good people in san francisco to go to if you want to legalize something that has been done without a permit in the past for a remodel that was down or a bathroom that was added downstairs without a permit. you feel like your uncle may have done it properly, you have to go back and get a permit. oftentimes no big deal, and it is a good thing to do, and there are many companies that specialize in doing just that, so you can do that. it depends once again on your goal. if your goal is to sell the property or to avoid neighbor complaints,

. >> is all this partying premature considering the case is in legal limbo? gay couples still cannot get married. now live from the castro district. where even kids say it an emotional place to be. >> reporter: a street party here in the castro wrapped up about an hour ago but people are still out partying. the parties follow a day fill with rallies and marches, cheering a court decision that people here say is a step in the right direction. supporters marched from the castro to city hall, celebrating a federal judge's decision to overturn prop 8. >> the court concludes that proposition 8 is unconstitutional. >> reporter: the 13-year-old said her blended family with two moms deserves to be recognized. >> i'm hoping one day that my parents will be able to get married. >> reporter: this crowd is filled with same second couple waiting for the same chance. >> my family is very conservative. and my fmly has met her and they love her. you know, from my 85-year-old grandfather to my mom, she call us my girls. and if they love us and they want us to get married, i th

they are operating in a safe and legal manner.inally, an update on the plans for the gore registry. there is a bit of a problem with the corps registry. when the police to permit registers grow operations that are operating outside of city codes, with respect to the building code, the planning code, and the rest -- that is why i am meeting with the other city agencies. we will hopefully have -- will hopefully be able to move forward together in that operation. annex

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is perfectly legal.ere was a challenge about 10 years ago to the use of cookies, which at the time was the most pervasive tracking technology. when a company started using cookies for advertising purposes, there was a legal challenge. the courts ruled that it was legal, and it was based on the analogy was that it was as if you were on the phone with a company talking to them, and they allowed someone else to listen in to that call. that was considered a legal transaction. there hasn't been a case since then to challenge this use of technology. maybe there will be. for now, it is legal, so in the sense the websites are allowing people toe listen in on your conversation with that website. host: good morning to curt from connecticut, independent line. caller: thanks to c.-span. i don't think there is another country that has this sort of open, unedited forum. i appreciate this. i appreciate somebody who is disabled and does a lot of buying from catalogs, i appreciate when i go on to facebook, things pop up

that building is -- that building's upper floor cannot be legalized for classrooms. there are use sites in the north beach area that would affect that. we cannot legalize that. we cannot address those issues. chair maxwell: is that information public? could, say, if they wanted to, could they have found out about that if they purchased the building or after they purchased the building to make sure it was being legally used? could they have done that? >> i don't know when they purchased the building. the use sites are relatively knew. although, i believe they purchased the building prior to the use site's change. but there are issues that we have. chair maxwell: well, do you update people? >> it is in the planning code. i believe that we were not informed of the situation in the building at the time. what we have done, we have gotten lots of the heavy lifting out of the way. it has been quite time consuming, but really our time has just begun there. we will continue working, we will continue to have periodic meetings with all the city departments, and what we will be

. >> reporter: but legal analysts say the turning point for the judge may have been the testimony of same-sex couples. >> couples. >> judge walker had flesh and blood people saying "i'm of a sexual orientation, i want to have a partnership on the same level as heterosexual peoples have, to not have it is something that makes me feel a second-class citizen." >> i need time to order cake. >> this afternoon the two seam- sex couples who are the plaintiffs in case sell braydoned with their attorneys. >> we have today's victory and we'll continue our fight to washington anderson to the supreme court. >> it is great that this happens in san francisco. that a proposition is overturned by a federal judge in san francisco. it really means a lot because san francisco has always been there fighting for gay and lesbian individuals. >> reporter: legal analysts say the fight could go on for as long as two years before it comes before the u.s. supreme court. in san francisco, david stevenson, ktvu channel 2 news. >> same-sex couples and their friends and family showed up at tv city hall to try to g

the three judge panel will look at the legal analysis afresh as is always done for legal analysis. i think very much informed by the factual findings put together by judge walker. >> suarez: when you say additional ways of looking at the issue, does that mean both sides can bring up things they didn't bring up in the original trial ? >> well, a great many arguments with -r made to judge walker in the briefs and there were friend of the court briefs submitted to judge walker. so there have been many different perspectives on the issues. equality law in constitutional jurisprudence is quite complicated and there's a surprising number of unanswered questions when it come tots antigay discrimination. for example, should anti-guy rules presumptively be seen as suspect. that's an open question where it's been resolved for quite a long time for other types of group based discrimination such as race or sex or discrimination based on religion. so there's been a lot of analysis of that and similarly there are different ways of thinking about substantive due process or liberty, as we say, and

there is no legal requirement to provide light and window. there is no authority about the contemplated work. this obtains a proper permit, and we came to an agreement. i even agree at that time that i would pay for half of the removal of the window as a good neighbor. the window above we stopped complaining about because it was much further above and not right into my bedroom. i do not think i am being unreasonable. i have a small house, much smaller than hers. my backyard is about three or four times the size of my house and slopes upward, and i walked out, and this is what i see, this window. it is an ugly thing to see. that is all i have to say, in a really appreciate your listening to me, -- and i really appreciate your listening to me, and i do not think any the derogatory comments should affect your decision, because they are simply not true. thank you. commissioner garcia: he is representing you? and you would not be opposed to what he is suggesting? >> i would like to not have a window there, not so close to my bedroom into my backya

and they can take up legal arguments or revise legal arguments. >> earlier, we spoke with the legal issuend this entire proposition that to not meet the legal criteria to make this case at all and that was the analyst's decision to you agree? >> there are certainly enough for that position and judge walker is very convincing in his language. he has laid out a pretty good case. and certainly, >> and what do think is going to happen? what do in dissipate with this stay? >> and i think that judge walker is going to go to the respect the process by allowing this. >> and if the ninth district does not consider that issue perhaps the could extend that state for a few days. it is all really in the hand of the justice. >> kimberly, thank you for your observations on this very controversial and important issue for california. our web producer, kimberly sakamoto. comments are coming in. >> that is right. both sides on our facebook fan page, and also, www.kron.com you can see that on a herbalife blog live blog i wad when there was one week. and certainly, judge walker is giving everybody their fair