. >> making the kitchen legal that means the planning department says it's okay.hat the unit in there. >> the code allows for the code but they don't allow the kitchen to go along with it. >> under the planning code kitchen is what makes is it a dwelling unit under the definition the planning code so when the kitchen is determining the density so if they are beyond the kitchen densities it's illegal. >> so you're saying it's not that it's a density but it triggers the density issue once it's legal. >> it's famous for - they create two bedrooms on the ground floor and as you know, as an application for expansion but they might go in and put a kitchen inside there which is not legal because they are beyond the density unit. >> so in a single-family unit you can't have a kitchen. >> that makes it two dwelling units. so again back cot scope if this legislation would pass do you feel like this would be a good indicator to have to offer landlords to legalize and this will lead for the most part a good resolution >> with the story i just mentioned where we have the habit

include protecting immigrants and have seniors and long starpd resident of the city to be able to legalize their homes. it was based on a community survey that took place in 2011 about the time the housing market was bought out a 35 percent discount u discount from the market rate according to hud. this survey was an internal assessment we knew of the housing stock but wanted to take a glance of the people in the home we found astonishing information like the chinese progress association and last year in may when we launched our report at the filipino center supervisor avalos joined us and he saw this as prove what he saw to be the county he represents. it preserves affordable housing and we feel it's balanced and ann is incentive sensitive - sensitive we've found 51 percent of householders have children in hair homes >> supervisor kim has a question. sir. supervisor kim >> thank you. i appreciate all of the work that was put into the legislation and it's really clear when you read through it a a lot of indication to protect tenants that maybe in a situation your talking about. and another

i think we need to if we are going to do it legally we have to do it legally. the system is issuing state licenses to commit federal felonies. it is not something we should be happy with. everybody in that business is completely at risk. president huckabee's attorney-general in 2017, what they're doing now, the current justice department guidance says that. is a crazy system. >> as the president questioner of this government's worse idea, i would like your thoughts back. >> overestimating the benefits of a government monopoly. if we're talking about a government monopoly are we talking about boris? state stores, washington state? we have state operated stores but we want a government monopoly for products in the stores. if you have private entities reducing products they will be marketing those products. >> said that is it. to get away from the commercial free-speech doctrine. every grower of cannabis has to be a vendor to the state you can write the marketing restriction in. >> we could have an argument about first amendment jurisprudence. let me set aside the

two states that concentrated on to legalize this session have rejected legalization. maine and yesterday new hampshire. they voted down legalization after having approved a legalization bill earlier in the session. so i don't think it is such a done deal that we suspect. it may be more of a done deal than i'm comfortable with, but i'm not so sure that it is inevitable. >> here's what i think. unless someone who doesn't like scale of full legalization is prepared to propose something short of that, if the opponents of legalization keep saying no, no, no, no, then we're what we're going to get is the alcohol model. i have to disagree with jonathan. i think all of the bells and whistles don't change the fact that the natural legal price of canibus is close to zero, and even stiff taxes on a percentage bases as they have in washington let alone the light taxes they have in colorado, but even a 40% tax of nothing is nothing. and the natural price of it going is pennies. i don't see anything that's going to keep us from getting the super cheap canibus. >> two interjexes. to

i think it's a good idea to legalize the in law unit have a vacant in law unit hope to legalize. that said i do think you should allow and places you under your regular calendar. there are hardships in the rent ordinance so folks who can't afford to pay for this i think the upgrade of the unit to a whole new status is completely on the landlord so i think you should allow accident property owners to pass this >> thank you. next speaker. >> my name is gordon i'm an architect in the city. i've been working here mostly doing think residential work in the last year's. i've been placard with a lot of clients with notices of violations forlogically units. i fully support this legislation. i think it's first step. i don't understand how we can reconcile the fact that it doesn't allow for any new in law units and it's merely providing an amnesia for to people who have go forward legislation. i've yet to hear why they don't allow in law units they're loud in many jurisdictions across the country and there's a number of ways to be implemented here. i think we should expand this program and

the legalizers would say that is why this needs to be legalized. you go out into the wilderness in california, yes, they are using tremendous amounts of pesticides, herbicides and who knows what. the environmental this action is quite phenomenal. this is marijuana growth outside the law. the legalizers would say that is one more reason to bring it under a state jurisdiction, because that way the environmental benefits even to legalizing marijuana. piece. great if people are interested in this as an issue, go on mother jones. host: a tweet from a viewer -- guest: which is what happened last week and san francisco. a mom had her daughter set up in of a medical marijuana dispensary and sold out 157 boxes in record time. excited -- aside, what are the under industries -- other industries popping up because of colorado? guest: that is the joke that' frito sales going through the roof in colorado. it is interesting as you look at this. one of the things we talked about was edible. people go out there and because it is so powerful it will take a bar in wi

, just dumb legalization, and what does dumb legalization look like? >> it looks like what we're getting now. high, when the price collapses. very low prices leading to much more heavy use by adults, and much more use by minors. regulations that don't amount to much, aggressive marketing, people trying to make a lot of money selling a lot of weed. the problem with the legal cannibus business is, you can't make money selling cannibus except to people who smoke too much. people who smoke a modern amount aren't good customer, so we'll develop a whole industry to people dependent on cannibus like the alcohol industry, so the question is not if, or when, but how. and there are fairly obvious ways to go forward with high taxes and regulation, and a state monopoly and quotas that will help people from having their habits slip out of control. and we can eliminate the cost of prohibition, which is huge, and not run into the increased drug abuse. >> so michael, marco mentions the idea that the people you were going to be selling to are already addicted. you run

if there is a bill that says any state wants to legalize can legalize it and it is legal by the federal government but only if it state wants it. i can imagine the cannabis legislators saying it isn't what i want. but it is better than now. and i thought i could imagine people on the anti-drug saying it is better than what have. but i propose a bill that says you can legalize any state that wants to legalize under the following conditions and make that the national framework. not have the congress dictates what every state should do but may do. the current system of having cannab cannab cannabis quasi-legal in states isn't a good situation. it is a felony to handle an account for a marijuana business says the federal government but we'll not get you if you do that. this isn't satisfactory. we to do it legally if we are going to do it. and state licenses to create federal felony isn't something we should be happy with. everybody in the business is at risk of president huckebee's general to indict them. it is crazy system >> alison, i would like your thoughts about this. >> i think we ove

to go to legal retainer they have to go though the process. and certainly many tenant wouldn't know their rights >> i understand the way it currently is i'm appreciative. i know a lot of tenants don't go to the rent board for rent protection >> thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon. i'm maria i'm an advocate for the justify cause. many of the folks we see in the clinic come 40 from the 9/11 unit they come into our clinic they're looking to enjoy like a good living there are rats and others issues as advocates and you counselors we can do as much pressure and negotiation with the property owners up to a point and there's a point because we can't go to the department of building inspections to ask that they are had been ability and maintenance requirements take into account or that property owners are held accountability for the unit there's a place we're not able to support tenants in being able to live in the habitual properties this will open up the departments to cooperate to make sure there are habitual habitual unites and like it's be

it's to bring this vitality stock of housing to help preserve legal housing to reactivist legal units that may be kept off the market. those dove tail that your mayor ed lee directed agencies to take action to preserve the cities housing including going through a leg process. of course, our goal of preserving the in law units can't come at the expense of safety and our legislation is to be client with our building codes to make sure there's entrances and exits. and through that your legislation assures that your tenants live in safe living zones. now our proposal helps homeowners to make a long-range investment by legalizing the situation and allowing the homeowners not to fear the enforcement action and to allow the action to be temporarily suspended if a good faith effort t is made to legalize the unit. for decades the in law units have been allowed to exist and essentially our city has had a don't act don't tell policy i believe the proposal in front of us allows a balance of preservation and safety goals. i want to conclude we thank our staff for the review of the legislation and

if you legalize units rent will got up and it will be challenging for that and one the marines why we legalize in law units their affordable on the market and this would count aqua we like about in law units >> if i could make a quick comment. >> supervisor chiu. >> you talk about the fact that property taxation increase because the value of the property is going to increase and we're trying to reduce the code obstacles to legitimization but to provide certainty to the owners. we've heard from owners whether or not the city is going to enforce they want to know their rights in the don't ask don't tell and we try to do it to reduce the administrative fees but let me say there's been a lot speculated we're going to see on numerous civilization or too much change is going to happen i think the answer is in the middle we've tried to strike a balance by making this divorce we're allowing owners who can make the life changing challenges but we're not forcing folks and i think if it turns out we need additional endocuments we can look at whether or not there's a way for the city or lenders t

he then served as legal director of the naacp legal defense educational fund, the l.d.f. this was a civil rights organization founded nearly 70 years ago by the great thurgood marshall who founded it because they needed people to stand up for americans and to give them the constitutional rights that they have to have fair and honest and competent -- and competent legal representation. during his time there, he argued two landmark cases of voting rights for the united states supreme court. the nominee is widely regarded as an expert in civil rights law. he has received an outpouring of support from the civil rights community. some of the people who support him. the chairman of the chief executive of american express have been continually impressed by his skills and professionalism as well as his commitment to upholding civil rights. the national organization of black law enforcement executives gave its unwavering support to him. we have had letters of support from detective terrance daniels, retired member of the new york city police department, new york state attorney gen

there were legal opinions that informed the decision-maker. once the decision is made, are we then entitled to have access to those opinions? >> you are absolutely entitled to understanding -- >> the question is, are we entitled access to the opinions which informed the decision-making? after he makes the decision? >> even after he makes the decision, the reason why the executive branch -- it was given in the context where there might not be a decision to go forward. that confidential legal advice, i believe, enables the effective functioning of the executive branch because keeping the confidentiality allows for full discussions between lawyers and policymakers. they can ask questions and be fully candid. >> i believe your answer is we are not entitled to any legal opinion rendered to the executive branch decision-makers even after the decision is made. is that correct? >> as you know, there have been -- >> is that correct? >> it is a caveat of the answer that i want to say that in circumstances, the president has direct sharing -- >> do we ha

>> it's a less terrible message than to say we keep alcohol legal and tobacco legal. alcohol and tobacco cause in the long run irreversible health damage. brain damage, liver, lung damage. cannabis, we don't have overdoeove overdoses, cirrhosis. >> imagine can be damaging. 9% of people that use it they will become addicted. it can be harmful to kids, pregnant women and those with mental illness. two of the other big public health fears about loosening marijuana laws haven't come to pass. according to data, the coffee shops haven't caused the rise of other drugs like cocaine or heroin. many argue marijua users move on to harder drugs. second, dutch policy hasn't turned the dutch into a nation of pot heads. 6% of people in the netherlands report using marijuana compared to 9% spain, 15% in this u.s. >> in the netherlands, if it comes to prevalence in the population, we are not the highest. france is much higher. spain is much higher. >> places that have no coffee shops? >> and fully repressive on the user. spain is changing now, but france has been very repressive. you

so we can see what is happening when we have legal drugs and legal addictive drugs that have money to market to increase consumption. and the bars on the right are 65 plus. the blue bars are tobacco and the green bars are now red. and here are the blue bars in the red bars. unlikely as we become addicted, we need help. the tobacco industry had been sued by the state and the state can realize that they were putting out more money to treat tobacco related diseases through the medicaid programs than they were able to bring in taxes. as a consequence they sued the industry offering just how much the tobacco industry is part of treating addicted children. you can find hundreds of these examples in the legacy foundation database. the group said that if you're really selling this, you're going to be out of business in 30 years. >> we want to make sure that customers cannot afford our products, so they are talking about children. this includes product not regulated by the fda to attract children. this is one of many examples. we're talking about apple and eccentric or the apple industry does

the intention is to legalize those units, however, some of the provisions make it a discretionary process usually the provision around the zoning administrator. the anticipation of the supervisor and this ordinance is to streamline the permitting process for this. we're proposing modification to remove the discretionary process and make that an a.d. central process and make the things to reflect the existing permit process and the planning department and dbi is practicing now with finding the permit and gets routed to the planning department. number 4 is also about the permit process and we're going requiring construction to upgrade those thirty days after the permit is issued. this is a current practice for enforcement. the provision is in violation of some code requirements and the city finds out the city requires those corrections to be done within thirty days. it's a shorter period of one hundred and 80 days for new permits we think those unite diesel with life and safety issues the upgrades need to happen faster. the next banish of comments is the exceptions from the planning code. i

it will create a avenue to legalize unit that couldn't be legal listed and i would want to ask the director to discuss the specification of the recommendation. >> good afternoon. i'm with the planning department. as was mentioned our commission strongly supported this legislation and identified 4 public benefits. first, this legislation will relieve the tenant of risk of eviction without the constant threat of removal and that will help to up grad the life of the units that are at risk of fire and other city codes violation requirements and third this legislation will help to maintain this unit as a revenue source for the property owner and lastly it will help the city to receive the property taxes and will help to offset the costs that the city is occurring. we thank president chiu to accept and apply the modifications that the planning commission recommended. there was one modification that was not adapted it was to legalize more than one lot in which there is a building with more than 10 unit and that will help to add an additional unit in the castro neighborhood in san francisco. this i

the business is legal in every way even though all of its owners is not.t's hard to say how many u.s. businesses are owned by the roughly 12 million undocumented people currently living in america. business owners don't need to declare the stats, but one proffer in southern california estimated 8% to 10% of the undocumented are legal entrepreneurs. if true that means they own hundreds of thousands of u.s. businesses. immigration lawyer said it's actually quite common in philadelphia. >> a lot of my clients are business owners. it's mostly common in restaurant and convenience stores and corner stores but also construction and contracting work. >> reporter: becoming american business owners using a birth certificate or foreign i.d. an immigrant can apply for individual payer identification number or itin for short. with the itin in hand he can apply for an employer identification number. section 7-b asks for an social security number or, and this is how it's possible, an itin number. the internal revenue service considers him the owner of a legal u.s. busine

cia'sneral counsel is the legal advisor, not its defense attorney. the general counsel provides the institution and its leaders advice and counsel about the laws that govern the cia activities and its role in our democracy. my question for you is simple. would you counsel the cia to face forward and learn from the program andm this implement lessons learned in the future or continue hunkering down in defensive rationalizations and past shortcomings? >> senator, i absolutely would look forward and take advantage of the lessons learned in moving forward and make sure the that the agency -- and make sure that .he agency is operating i believe that the client is the agency ultimately and then the american people. withknow you are familiar general counsel steve preston's thoughts on the inaccurate information that the cia provided to legal authorities about this program. most people do not know this. we cannot talk about it. you all cannot talk about it. the press can say anything they want and they will always go for the gotcha area. people lose confiden

if we are going to do it legally then we have to do it legally. the system that is issuing the state licenses to commit federal felonies is at best a transitional mechanism and not something we should be happy with. remember everybody in that business is completely at rest. the attorney general of an guiding theandguiding them in 2f they are doing now the current justice department guidelines says it is a crazy system. >> as the resident questioner of this government stores idea, i would like your thoughts about it. >> first we need to define the terms of the government monopoly are we talking about. we had a state operated stores but we were not a government monopoly for the product in the stores. so if you have private entities producing the product, they are going to be marketing the product. >> that's my proposal to get away from the commercial free-speech doctrine. they have to be a vendor to the state you could write the research and. >> we could have an argument of the jurisprudence. so we all know there is no first amendment protection wri

be legal., on the other hand tweeted yes and said we should legalize having a joint or bowl at home should be legal. i am 60 and i love pot, medicinal or not. thank you to everyone who weighed in today. all right. that wraps things up for today's "ronan farrow daily." the reid report" is up next. ♪ see what's new at projectluna.com >>> happy tuesday, reeders. this is "the reid report." immigration reform and why some of its biggest supporters in the hispanic community are taking aim at president obama? and later florida and the first election of the 2014 mid--terms. more than $10 million spent in total on just one house race. we'll explain why. but, first, a story that exploded on to the senate floor this morning. did the cia spy on congress? specifically the committee designed to oversee the activities of the spy agency. that's the charge senate intelligence committee chair worm dianne feinstein leveled today against the agency. while the intel agenc a

this becomes the basis upon the legal lynching happening. this essentially is deployed to instill fear and intimidation in a white, lately racist voter population. at some point we have to say mumia was lynched in the courts. part of what the fraternal order of police says is that the movement to free him cares not maureene pain of faulkner. but part of what we have to say is justice for maureen faulkner is tied to finding out who killed officer faulkner. one of the most important things in this case is that there was a fourth person at the scene of the crime. and that person was the grinding away from the crime scene, and was identified as the shooter. was suppressed and trial by the prosecution. the question is, why? we believe mumia is innocent and justice for maureen fought and are is tied to finding out who killed officer faulkner. why doesn't the fraternal order of police want to discover the truth in this case? >> this is republican senator pat toomey a pennsylvania opposing the nomination last night. he addressed his colleagues, stoo

now the code in the code and we think that that would create a huge you hurdle for those unite to be legal listed so we're proposing the open space requirements to be exempted altogether. next is about parking reduction exemptions so in cases that those units are built in an existing garage that that garage is basically searing the requirement of the parking requirement for an existing legal requirement in the building we want that unit to be exempted from the parking exemption pressure so they can moved in a streamline process. the last one we're proposing to allow the expansions of those unite with the existing building footprints at the part of the legitimization permit process. the way it works when those units become legalized they can come back and file again, however, to allow the expansion within the legitimization process so to save everyone some costs. the next batch of comments we're proposing that in case the illegal unit is on a partial that's all right. at or below the density unit we ask the unit to be consistent with the practice we're doing right now with those units. numb

units to a legal place. you think about the affordable housing and the influx of african-american and the deplorable conditions in the illegal units those are of great concern for me >> so thank you colleagues. i just want to reiterate in terms of where i'm comfortable. first of all, i want to say a president chiu and staff have had conversations and they've been open and receptive to convince for me and my staff and stakeholders across the community both to any colleagues on the board i'd encourage you to talk to president chiu and his staff they're open. so it's a little bit unclear why there are more questions remaining now. i want to encourage you to talk to them they're very receptive. i just want to among a couple of points. first we're role tubing keeping people stable in their housing now. i know the next item is going to deal with the ellis act evictions but right now in this city where rents are more than $3,000 a month on average we're trying to keep people in their homes that's the most important

listed for building for 2 units to be legal listed more than 10 units and the density will be equal for building of more than 10 units. latest the last batch of comments is monthly technical changes. those are some clarity of definitions so it indicates that this unit should exist all right. at the space that's inner consistent with the building code proposals around submitting evidence that those units exist you signatures pg&e bills or lease agreement. number one number 11 the ordinance proposes to prohibit basically condo conversion and that lives in the planning code as proposed we're proposing to make that amendment also in the subdivision. and the last one just like a flight change in rent at what point should the unit be removed from the list. we want to remove is when it's actually emerged with an existing unit. that concludes my presentation. i submitted two letters and i wanted to briefly read an excerpt from one of the letters from the agent law caucus. the secondary unit security is one of the human rights to housing. san francisco's cycle process there's no better time