the legislature cut my funding proposals. i don't remember the lieutenant governor following my lead back then. i will also take exception to the $30 million i put into the budget, federal money with more flexibility that we were able to utilize for the state colleges. we actually use that, i give great credit to the legislature, but they took cares money and another way around and funded one kind of money for the public safety to free up general fund dollars so they did use the $30 million for bridge funding. they took my lead, made it better to utilize the money and i give credit for doing so. >> moderator: i will move to the lightning rounds and make sure you have a chance for final statements as well. should the loophole that allows merged educational districts to break apart if they can't agree on things be closed? you have 20 seconds to answer these. >> it is working at this time. more community use want to get out of that but that was the law of the land, something i created, not perfect but we have challenges and educ

the democrats and legislatures there are trying to stop it.is going to end up being a story of serious national significance. they are trying at this late date to create a brand new select election integrity committee that they're giving subpoena power to investigate the 2020 election in the middle of the 2020 election. you heard representative malcolm there. this fight is getting hotter. joining us now is representative maco malcolm. thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you for having me, what happens at the state legislature matters. >> i don't know if we are seeing any other state a last minute move by a republican control legislature to try to institute a new body to control the vote and to potentially affect the way the presidential election is conducted. is this something you guys knew was coming or as much of a surprise to you as us outside the state? >> you know usually we get 24 hours notice before a committee hearing that the bills are coming up. they put it in our inboxes and right before the presidential debate and for mon

them legislature says it's no longer okay to pay for goals that are ambiguous government needs to be held accountable. i have been talking a long time about breaking down the silos the secretary of human services thinking of the global picture from economic struggles and housing struggles and how the green and ask themm so i will vote on this bill that is becoming law because my administration look at all the musicians from a different perspective and i appoint people looking at the environment. >> are you concerned about the part where they are not meeting the emission standards quick. >> be clear the attorney general reviewed the bill and said regardless of those that n'not lawyers claiming it is not. the legislature greatly restricted where and how that can be done with respect to damages or expert witnesses. the idea is to give citizens the power because we have not done the job to tackle the climate crisis. look at the impact to the ski, tourism, waterway ski, tourism, waterways, agricue industries we have an opportunity to build a climate economy for the future to sequester car

but the wisconsin legislature -- i have never seen a legislature like the republican wisconsin legislaturehat ignored the 2016 referendum that passed overwhelmingly to legalize marijuana. they just did not do anything about that. they just ignored a referendum that passed overwhelmingly. i wonder if the professor knows many cases where they have had referendums like that, where they passed overwhelmingly and were ignored? guest: that was a nonbinding referendum. it did not have the defective law. process, wisconsin's you have a special process for changing the state constitution that has to pass the legislature. this was not like that. we do not have a direct initiative process that allows the voters to put something on the ballot, that ends up becoming law. was likelike this that the marijuana initiative, was a nonbinding referendum, so the state legislature was not compelled to follow that result. host: what down ballot races are you watching, and are there other referendums that the voters will be deciding in just a few days, and are they also nonbinding? guest: we do not have many comp

electors, referring to the possibility legislature in a state where it is determined by the popularote takes the position the popular vote is contaminated by fraud and the legislature itself, to determine who the elector should be. imagine a case where candidate a, the candidate chosen by congress, legislatures said that's not the right police produced by fraud or irregularity, to the united states congress. that is what the legislature was prepared to do, intervention in bush versus gore and that is how you end up with the electorate presented to congress and congress congressional battles again and there is a host of bizarre developments that go from there theoretically. by the time january 20th comes around no show less text 00:08:27 one scenario, it is so close or so clouded that there is no winning slate to come out of that, the state is unable to certify its election results so there's no certified slate that goes to washington, that is where the state legislatures - >> the state legislatures have to send to the senate the names of the electors and who won in their state. is t

such as a state legislature coming in two-point electors. there is a considerable dispute i would say over whether legislatures can ignore the will of the voters of the voters express their preferences on election day and it is clear who they voted for. but under a scenario in which the candidates are going about fraud and they sort of try to say there is a cloud over the results, it is possible you could see different coming from the state legislature and the governor of each state that he would have to be resolved by the house speaker of representative representatives. i want to emphasize of the state legislature somehow averted the will of the voter, that would raise all kinds of other constitutional problems with respect to violent the right to vote. but we've really been in that situation. and with the possibility can't replacement you could see them exercising that right. i will just end with what happened in the succeeding. my generous sixers accounts on the floor of the house of the representatives. and generally 20th is when a new p

feltes: you are part of the legislature one of the legislature dictates that they of the governor? feltes: you don't have to take it i am to work for free? host: we have exhausted the subject so worth the paper to endorse and 30 years so you have that repeated prompts he, meaning you chose to highlight that trump and who does that criticism paste make you thank you have underestimated voters capacity to assess the governor on his own record? >> and we have plans for the future to reduce cost and increase access the uninsured rachel pulled it into the comprehensive health care plan and the plan to move forward with the bipartisan initiative and we have a vision to lift up working families. we haven't heard anything from chris sununu. none about why he is running away our third term as governor. serving as the working people working family and to say that it is which chris sununu has said recently and working out for working families. >> he said he is out working for working families. >> that is absolutely not true. >> he says he was to create jobs when i ask him not to put in the 13

a super legislature, a judge should accomplish things that this chamber, this congress has failed to do, if there's a shortcoming in a policy that a judge or justice would look the other way and still write the policy or proactively create that policy, going back to what we've known throughout this country, the guardians of the constitution, guardians of the constitution don't make a poli policy, they don't fill voids of new policies that the legislatures didn't or couldn't do because they couldn't get it through the chamber so they decided they would count on a judge to do it somewhere else. that is not the role of the courts, it is certainly not the role of the guardian of the constitution, i guardian of the constitution is somebody who looks at the law and make decisions of the law, upholds and protects the will of the people of fundamental law of the people.d, an activist judge, justice would be reaching into the law to fit their own personal opinion or beliefs to craft something that they believe is perhaps more in they thought they wanted. their own opinion instead of looking a

they did it by simple resolution through the legislature. he thought it should be a referendum in 1924 they had a referendum in new york state, about what do you think about prohibition. they wanted beer and light wines to be allowed and it passed overwhelming in new york state, but it was just a memorialization of congress that didn't mean anything. smith himself was elected the president of the convention in new york state in 1933 to repeal the prohibition amendment officially in this chamber. the 150 delegates that gathered overwhelming voted and they overwhelming voted for al smith to be the president. he got the last laugh on that. they brought out 88-year-old root, the former u.s. senator and secretary of state to second the nomination and come in and pat him on the back. but prohibition shaped him because he thought it was ridiculous to say that you could use the constitution to control individual behavior. it actually took a right away from people rather than the amendments in the bill of rights giving rights to people. and he though

read every bill introduced so that he could understand the legislature. because he didn't have a high school or college degree. he wasn't a lawyer. the assembly at the time was prominently the legal field. smith made sure that he could do that. also since he didn't have any money, i mean, he lived on the $1,500 a year plus the traveling expenses. he had nothing else to do. he didn't go out partying at night. he didn't do bad things. he missed his family. he would go back to his room at his hotel and he'd read. and when he wasn't there, he'd been in the legislative library looking up the bills and the laws that they affected. >> john evers, are appropriations bills still about 300 pages long? >> they could save a lot of trees by having them done electronically. smith was the chairman of ways and means. in 1911, he used to read the appropriation bill cover to cover. and he said not more than ten people in the senate or the assembly could explain the appropriation bill. thick stacks of appropriation, line by line by line. he mastered that and it ultimately l

he'll be voting for amendment >> i thinkhat the legislature and the senate we're trying to do in the fix r amendment three was be try and get a er understanding to the voters about what they voted ont and gim another chance to be able to make some corrections-- and cose corrections. >> reporter: jason rosenbaum is a political correspondent for st. louis public radio. he's been covering missouri's redistricting process for over a he says the republicans see clean missouri as an existential threat to their legislative super majority. >> in their view, the way clean missouri is crafted inherently benefits democra because if you have to have a competitiveness and rtisan fairness standard, that means that it's going to be linked to, like, statewide elections, whi are much closer than some legislative races. if you don't have a certain number of legislators, you can't override a veto.an if there's a democratic governor, there can be a real check and balance betwn a republican legislature and-- and the democrats throughout the ste. >> reporter: opponents of amendment three, like shawn nicho

the legislature, the legislature decides the governor's salary. i've never asked for a raise.previous governors, i think, hassan and lynch, they were independently wealthy and chose not to take the full salary that's wonderful, that's great, but i get the salary the legislature gives me. this idea that i somehow gave myself a raise is outrageous, i think it says more about dan feltes. >> no, it says respect for frontline workers. ill reject the pay raise that he gave to himself and-- >> you're head of the legislature and you don't know that legislature dictates the pay for the governor. >> you get to decide whether or not to take it. >> i think we've exhausted this one. >> to work for free? >> and mret me-- >> you're working for $143,000 right now. >> senator, when the keane sentinel enforced governor sununu and the paper hasn't enforced a governor for 30 years, the editorial said you would make a good governor, but given prompts, he, meaning you, chose to highlight that sununu was a trump guy through and through. do you think maybe you've junt estimated the underestimated the

the legislature decides the governor salary. never asked for a raise. the previous governors were independently wealthy and they did a great job and they chose not to take the full salary. that's wonderful. that's great but i get this salary the legislature gives me the idea somehow i gave myself a phase is outrageous progress is more about dan feltes and his campaign. >> is a something about respect for front-line workers. i will reject the ways he gave himself i will give back to reinstate and raise the minimum wage. gov sununu: your e-mail legislature dictates up if the governor. >> you could choose whether or not to take it. gov sununu: i should work for free? feltes: that's 143,000. >> endorsing the republican for governor in 30 years the editorial said you would make a fine governor but also noted that with those repeated props to discuss the vision you chose to highlight instead that sununu is trump through and through. is a priest that may be underestimated voters capacity on his own record? >> we have plans for the future of the healthcare plan

there is a considerable dispute i would say over whether state legislatures can't ignore the will of the voters if the voters express their preferences on election day and it is clear who they voted for but under a scenario in which as the kennedy to argue about fraud and they tried to say there's a cloud over the results, it is possible you could see different slate of electors coming from the state legislature and the governor that would have to be resolved before the house of representatives. i want to emphasize though if the state legislature set out subverted the wheel of the voters, that would raise all kinds of other constitutional problems with respect to violating the right to vote, but we've never really been in that situation, and with the possibility of kennedy replaced that you could easily see some of state legislatures exercising that right. i will end with what then happens in the succeeding period. by january 6 there's counting on the floor of the house of representatives, and then january 20 is when the new president is sworn in, and if no president has been chosen

these kinds of projects are supported by the north dakota legislature. they are key for us to continue to have a vibrant, present -- brilliant community. we will continue to fight for resources. if you have to reduce the state budget, where would you do that? what should be a priority? >> we should not have to cut the budget. it may be one we have to cut. , we have toom their add to other parts of the budget to take care of what is happening with covid. because we are running ahead, looks like we will be in pretty good shape. towe start planning, we have be looking for ways to deliver government services cheaper, weter, and more efficiently were able to have people work remotely. i think there are many opportunities for us to reduce costs. confident that even though the revenue picture looks good, we can continue to have costs out of the budget. not only hurting services but helping services be more efficient. kind ofpayers the same experience they get from anyone else. you can interface with them seven days a week, 24 hours a day. the governor had for y

departments that the legislature can then act on. that made budgeting much more responsive to one virges the governor of new york and that's how it is today. >> beverly, we began this program with a little video from the al smith dinner. what is the al smith dinner and how did it come about? >> it's most famous as a place the presidential candidates show up every four years. they show up, democrats and republicans. it's really a memorial dinner for smith and i think it's smith -- thinkthat if anyone's heard al smith's name at this point in time that that's where you probably heard about al smith unless you hang around these hallowed halls. in general it's probably his most lasting public legacy, the place where his name gets out it's held every year, not just every four years. it's a memorial dinner. it's a catholic charity dinner and a place where people get together and try to assess the legacy be al smith and presidential candidates always try to crack good jokes about each other. >> and they show up together most times. they show

in order for you or griswold to be overruled, you or some state legislature would have to pass a law prohibiting birth control and a lower court would have to buck supreme court precedent and say we're not following griswold, again seems very unlikely. so i think that it's an academic question that wouldn't arise. but it's something that i can't opine on, particularly because it does lie at the base of substantive due process doctrine which is something that continues to be litigated in courts today. >> for the benefit of watching judge barrett, your predecessors talked about griswold in detail. justice roberts said he agreed with the conclusion. he shared your view that he's comfortable commenting because it doesn't appear to be an area that would ever come before the court. justice alito and kavanaugh agreed. justice kagan who you have been citing on the no grading said i do, that she's willing to speak to it, and as every nominee has, i do support the results in griswold. i understand that you're saying to us you're going to be your own justice and that you're very hesitant to tal

circumstances cannot legislature decide on its electors rather than the electors that were voted in by majority? what are the standards for this happening? under pennsylvania law -- let me emphasize that this varies state-by-state, so what i will say about pennsylvania does not necessarily apply everywhere -- but under pennsylvania law, of as to be the choice normal lawmaking process that involves the governor, right? there are several levels at which this question is being asked. the first question is, suppose there is a clear winner in the popular vote in pennsylvania, and in the state legislature wants to essentially overturn that election. can it do that? the short answer is not under pennsylvania law, but then you get into an interesting debate under the u.s. constitution, because article two of the u.s. constitution says each state shall determine in a manner determined by the legislature thereof a number of electorates. fore, you have the possibility that legislators could make the argument that they have the authority to choose. it is not the end of the story there, because

so a yes vote would give the power to draw those legislative lines back to the legislature.nd pull between voters and the legislature and even between voters in the past and voters today. one of the things that california residents will vote on this year is a ballot measure to repeal a ban on affirmative action that passed about 20, 25 years ago. it looks likely that one is not going to succeed. so a failure there will maintain the ban on affirmative action. but, yeah, this is the joy of direct democracy. citizens don't even agree with themselves sometimes. >> let's talk about the vices. gambling, sports gambling and marijuana. are there any places that will defeat the legalization of those these days? or is every place where it's on the ballot, is it likely to pass now? >> you can imagine that the two legal marijuana initiatives in south dakota and mississippi. mississippi is only voting on medical. they might not pass just because they are more conservative states. but then again, we've even seen marijuana measures pass in some pretty conservative states. i'm here in arizo

house of representatives they also ended up controlling the state legislature. gerrymandering can change the results from one elect into the next as seen in wisconsin in 20 team the republicans won only 46 percent of the popular vote but still kept a clear majority in the wisconsin state assembly and sent more representatives to congress in washington than the democrats. but this is fundamentally remapped american democracy when a majority of voters in a state are consistently able to elect a majority of representatives. in election after election this has done great and want lasting damage to the idea of one person one vote. last year the u.s. supreme court declined to rule in 2 cases of gerrymandering. the justices said this was a matter for state legislatures and the u.s. congress to decide. another controversial aspect of the american electoral system involves the voters themselves. excluded voters. this can be done by taking people off the list of registered voters in a given district for any number of reasons karen wilson mccoy from north carolina was not

house of representatives they also ended up controlling the state legislature. gerrymandering can change the results from one elect into the next as seen in wisconsin in 20 team the republicans won only 46 percent of the popular vote but still kept a clear majority in the wisconsin state assembly and sent more representatives to congress in washington than the democrats. but this is fundamentally remapped american democracy when a majority of voters in a state are consistently able to elect a majority of representatives. in election after election this has done great and one lasting damage to the idea of one person one vote. last year the u.s. supreme court declined to rule in 2 cases of gerrymandering. the justices said this was a matter for state legislatures and the u.s. congress to decide 'd. another controversial aspect of the american electoral system involves the voters themselves. excluded voters. this can be done by taking people off the list of registered voters in a given district for any number of reasons karen wilson mccoy from north carolina was no

house of representatives they also ended up controlling the state legislature. gerrymandering can change the results from one elect into the next as seen in wisconsin in 20 team the republicans won only 46 percent of the popular vote but still kept a clear majority in the wisconsin state assembly and sent more representatives to congress in washington than the democrats. but this is fundamentally remapped american democracy when a majority of voters in a state are consistently able to elect a majority of representatives. in election after election this has done great and want lasting damage to the idea of one person one vote. last year the u.s. supreme court declined to rule in 2 cases of gerrymandering. the justices said this was a matter for state legislatures and the u.s. congress to decide. another controversial aspect of the american electoral system involves the voters themselves. excluded voters. this can be done by taking people off the list of registered voters in a given district for any number of reasons karen wilson mccoy from north carolina was not

the legislature is doing is litigating. as a result we really are in a situation now where the governor who is trying to lead is being ham strung both by the legislature and by the courts that are basically controlled by the republicans. >> and again this is as the statewide positivity rate is at 23%. specifically what isn't happening that should be happening in 24 crisis situation? because of the political mode. >> well we have a mask order here. and that mask order was passed at the local level. so we are in a good position there. they are challenging the mask order at the state level. the governor just issued a new edict, if you will for bars and restaurants at 25%. again, we have a plan here that we think is more restrictive. so that one remains in place. so we are able to operate here locally. but a lot of parts of the state are not operating locally. and they need that state leadership. and again, the governor is trying to provide the leadership. but is ham strung by both the legislature and the courts. >> you are doi

have a super legislature. civic >> the things i will underscore. first of all thank you all for covering this now. marco and i and others have been pushing on this for a year end a half. we have to do more to in-store passages will trust in our country and our government. this is not news since it has become a campaign issue. i'm glad joel starting to cover it now. to the lenses of this moment and this election have a lot of work to restore institutional trust. it's really two new two of three branches of government. the declining public trustee conversation is about nuking two of three branches but it's about turn descent into just another house speaker of representatives. a simple majoritarian body that on 5149, 49, 51 swings every couple of months to try to remake more and more is the opposite of the founders vision for what it is for. the purpose of the senate is to have a long debate, deliberation and allow passions to cool. the idea but nuking the senate, ending his deliberative structure for the purpose of nuking the supreme court is a much

is that how it works. >> the possibility that a legislature were the electors slate is determined by the popular vote and suddenly the electoral vote is contaminated fraud. it's determined who the electorate should be so candid a wins the popular vote the legislature says that's not the right place. is contaminated by fraud or reduced by fraud or electorate -- irregularity and that's what the legislature is prepared to do if they ever had to do it. alternative electoral slates may beyo presented to the congress d thenat that congress congressiol battle begins. i don't think this could happen by the time january 20 comes around if the president has been determined to the electoral college the vice president could wind up becoming the president of the united states or neither of them are president but it's a speaker of the house. i don't thinknk that's going to happen but it's very very complicated. >> one scenario worth mentioning is that the states count is so closer so clouded that there is no winning slate to come out of that state. in other words the state is unable to certify ele

that's what we have a congress for, that's what we have 50 state legislatures for.g like obamacare, obamacare is a policy i think it's been an absolute disaster. it's made health insurance unaffordable for millions of americans, but it's interesting, the democrats have decided their number one talking point against judge barrett is, if she is confirmed she is going to be a henchman for donald trump to take away healthcare for pre-existing conditions. i think the fact that they're focusing on obamacare and pre-existing conditions shows that they recognize how out of touch they are on every other issue. they don't want to talk about free speech and how they want to take away our first amendment rights. that i want to talk about the second amendment and how they want to repeal the second amendment. they don't want to talk about religious liberty, and they don't even want to talk about roe versus wade. they recognize their views on life are extreme. instead they want to talk about pre-existing conditions. now, i don't know how the supreme court is going to decide the pa

what s they want to do, they beg the democrats is to establish a super legislature. we all should be very afraid of that. this is our third branch of government. our judicial system is at risk by giving them power beyond what is currently established. even ruthst bader ginsburg who said nine is the right number. we've had nine supreme court justices for over 150 years, so i am very supportive of these efforts to pass this amendment and resolution and enshrine our traditions andon history permanently. so, again, let's come together and support this resolution and let's make sure that we are not creating a super legislature. three things i will -underscore and thank you for covering this now. to restore institutional trust in the country and in the government this isn't new for us since it's become a campaign issue. a lot of us have been pushing for this for some time so i'm glad you are starting to cover it now but it shouldn't be interpreted just through this moment. we have a lot ofe work to do rebuilding and restoring institutional trust in the second of all if you

>> he's been governor for two years and lieutenant governor lr for years before that and legislature before that. he wants to point the finger at everyone else instead of taking responsibility for his own actions. look, i know what he's referencing. i don't support defunding the police. the only person on the stage that has defunded the police is governor parson. $1.8 million cut from the state police force. it's about priorities, and we need to prioritize getting resources to the law enforcement. >> we have one rebuttal opportunity but we are going to move onto the next question here and that comes from emily. >> the black lives matter movement has captured the country's attention after the death of george floyd in minnesota. to bring our state into the national spotlight. if elected governor what if any social justice changes would you advocate for? >> we've been working on that from day number one. black lives matter. all lives matter in this state no matter who you are, where you're from, rich or poor, when you are in the military like i was, it doesn't matter what color somebody

that was in the legislature, not in the executive. we are reminded yet again of the importance of that asymmetry, and what the founders thought would be the heart of government, and the legislature. when we recollect that down until the 1830's, 1832, presidential candidates were nominated by caucuses in the congress. the first convention of a political party to nominate a presidential candidate, taking that function out of the hands of a caucus and putting in the hands of a broadly based party, was a convention convened by the so-called anti-masonic party in 1832, and all parties soon thereafter, democrats, wigs and so on, down to our own time, went to the nominating convention, which was meant to be more inclusive and more democratic, and selecting a presidential candidate, then the closed door function of a congressional caucus. -- whigs. the first innovation we see historically in the evolution of the presidency as an institution, going to nominating conventions and departing from the practice of using congressional caucuses, was d

and they're also voting on who should represent them in theirn ate legislatures. here to walk us through the details and trends, is reid wilson of "the hill." reid, welcome back to the newshour. good to see you. and thanks for making the time. let's start with some of the ballot measures, it can be o good way see how they'reti resi at the state and local level. is that making its way on to ballot measures this year? >> absolutely. we've seen election reform start in state legislatures over the last deovcadee to the courts in recent years, and now voters are getting to have their y. voters in states like massachusetts and alaska will decide on whether to im ranked choice voting, which is a pretty ininnovative way of conducting elections without a runoff. voters in othr states are deciding wheer or not to create independent redistricting commissions which would take the power to draw political lines out of the hands of state legislatures. and vors in other states, three in particular, colorado, alabama, and florida, are goingw to vote hether to require only citizens

birmingham asks us, what is happening with the north carolina legislature? are democrats going to gain control of the senate or the house? guest: great question. we have a legislature that is controlled by the republicans, and our governor is a democrat. since 2010, republicans have dominated the legislature. they have super majorities. they had a republican governor. they could do anything they wanted. the last cycle, they broke that super majority. the governor's veto could come in question. the democrats believe they have enough to potentially take one of the chambers. democraticwith operatives, they believe they have a good shot of taking the north carolina senate. they hope they have a shot of winning the north carolina house. it is more challenging. republicans believe they can hold onto both chambers. it is going to be razor thin. that is something we are watching closely. why is that important? for our governor, secretary of health and human services, many of his cabinet, they want to expand medicaid in north carolina. roughly three quarters of a mil

the legislature funded that too. hometown strong, nice slogan, but he's done nothing for small town north carolina. you want to talk about access to broad band, i led the effort for broad band connectivity in the classroom. we're the first state in nation to have every single classroom connected to high speed broad band. when i'm governor, we will be the first state in the nation to actually have all of the last mile connected to high speed broad band. >> and mr. cooper, we're talking about special needs children, but also disadvantaged, economically disadvantaged. your reply? >> there's no question that special needs children need help, and they do not respond well for remote learning. and it's one of the reasons that we went ahead and implemented plan a, where k through 5 can go back fully into school with appropriate safety measures as long as the local board of education approves it. we know that special needs children need special attention. it's one to have reasons why i put forward 35 million dollars out of th

based on article 2 of the constitution that says each state shall appoint in such manner as the legislature there of may direct a number of electors equal to that cetera et cetera but each state shall appoint and so that pledge the state can enforce according to the supreme court jennifer this statewide winner takes all method for choosing presidential electors this was not mandated in the constitution but it developed pretty quickly right yeah it did and it became a convention more or less right away so while some aspects of the electoral college system are outlined in the constitution and that makes them frankly very difficult to change because the barriers to changing the constitution are quite high have to get a 2 thirds vote for each chamber of congress and 3 quarters in state legislatures to increase so we only amended the constitution $27.00 times in this country but. you know but because we have this winner take all system that a lot of people think is perhaps not ideal it would be difficult to change which is why as a sketch it was mentioning there is this national compact that has

that's the point of federalism, citizens can have more policies and more influence over their state legislatures than the federal government. >> what role does the decorat n declaration play? >>> the declaration of independent dense is an ex presence of ideals and our desire to be free of england. it's not law, however. the constitution is law. so the constitution is our foundational law and governing document. while the declaration of independence tells us a lot about history and about the roots of our republic, it isn't binding law. >> what are the five freedoms of the first amendment? >>> speech, religion, press, assembly -- screech, press, religion, assembly, i don't know, what am i missing? >> redress or protest >>> okay. >> why is there one amendment that has these five freedoms clustered? why do they hang together? >>> i don't know what you're getting at, on that one. you the mean what is the common denominator some are. >> i'm getting back to the same idea the bill of rights was an attempt to do public, attempt to say we believe in limited arco oh we the founders, the brillian brilliance

by and large, universally in this state -- i will say the majority of legislatures would agree is notugh being done with education, we are spending money and putting in the wrong buckets and getting to the classrooms where it needs to be so yes, i would abide by it for sure and i think it will get support. >> thank you. a quick follow-up, you admit there is a tough road ahead when it comes to balancing the budg budget, does the pandemic recession hurt your ability to pay for this? >> first of all, the programs we've committed to in the settlement were programs we started when i was first elected governor in 2016. that first year, even with the $400 million deficit, we started an opportunity funding program. we put additional dollars into early education, preschool education and the next year, attracting teachers to schools in these difficult areas. all these programs settlement were programs we were pursuing and funding prior to the lawsuit being filed so contrary to what was just being said by my opponent. ... finally get the funding that needed to happen. that would be my response.

legislature funded that, too. hometown strong, nice slogan but he's done nothing for north carolina. i love the effort for broadband connectivity in the classroom, where the first state in the nation to have every single classroom connected to high-speed happened. when i'm governor, will be the first state to actually have all of the last mile connected to high-speed broadband. >> we talk about special needs program also is advantaged, economically disadvantaged. >> there's no question special needs children need help and they do not respond well for about 40 minutes one of the reasons we went ahead and implanted plan a where k -- five and go back fully into school with appropriate safety measures as long as the local board of education approves it. we know special needs children need special attention. it's one reason why i put forward $35 million out of the governor's discretionary money from the cares act specifically for special needs children. >> talking about getting k5, great. i'm all in favor. i voted to g