in the house, with the excepon of henry waxman, i'm noture they havthe skillful legislors and with ted kennedy gone i don't know who u have in t senate to shepherd this through. i think that's a real problem. >> i d agree wi that. the numberf people whoave experiend putting together complicated pieces of legislation just isn't tre the way there was the 1s. then you havto issue, which rich elud to. part... why isthe bl popular now? i thk one, people have had loofgovernment sved down their throats for od reasons and baover the last couple months, they're a little nervous. it's not a country that's attuned to have having big government. >> rose: are they worried aut vernment or the defit and the cost? >> many my view... and ithink that's why t president understands that, that's whyis rhetoric about themerican characteis so central. america has a tradition. the traditi is lited gornment. and ontop of that you have defici. you have what' going to b.. i don't kn, our public debt to g.d.p. wille 83% by 2019. soou have a great deal of anxiety. then the thi thing is it's almost impossible, it's