the russians ends up vetoing itlate in the security coinsell because the action would have been legitmat? an abuse of human rights? >> all of the nations in the world in 2005 passed a u.n. resolution that said all nations have a responsibility to protect their own citizens and if they fail in that obligation in a massive way meaning war crimes, systematic crimes, genocide, ethnic collectioning, marv, marv abuse of power, in those situations, the international community has the right to intervene. we use that in libya. it's going to take probably decades to ma i can it international law like human rights law, the universitial declaration, that was a deck laration like the isn'ty to protect over decades of treaties ratifying that, action and supporting human rights, that becomes the new law. unless we are doing to do some things that violate current law, we can't get to a place where we can stop things like the syrian civil war early enough that they room. >> intervention is often needed early to be effective? >> absolutely. at this point, i look at this and think how on earth are you goin