she delivers that message everywhere she goes, even as she spoke to graduates at lehigh university. >'ve seen pretty much everything that two centuries of a turbulent world history can throw at a company. we're still here because we learned to be resilient. we learned how to use science to innovate, and we learned how to transform ourselves in an ever- changing world. >> susie: when the chapter on ellen kullman is written in the dupont history books-- what do you want it to say about you? >> market-driven science. >> susie: and that's important because? >> it's important because for our science to be relevant, for us to be successful, our science has to be relevant to our customers. that science has to be driven from the market side. that's why that's important. >> susie: as a reminder of thes company's rich past, kullman rescued this painting from dupont's archives and hung it in her office. it shows an important meeting held by the company's founder-- e.i. dupont, back in 1802. >> so, this e. i. dupont. >> and this is thomas jefferson. now, that's dearborn who was secretary of war,

james peterson, directassociate professor of english at lehigh university. he joins us tonight from philadelphia. joining us in studio is david k. johnson a professor at syracuse university of law. thanks for being with me tonight. >> thanks for having me. >> thank you for having me. >> are republicans doing anything to help children in these recession airy times? we're out of that now, and we have job creation the last 15 months. through it all, have the republicans come up with anything to help children? >> no. it doesn't seem, at least from a policy perspective that they care so much about kids. i mean, when we look at this situation, and david brooks said it best, that the deal the democrats put on the table is essentially a no-brainer, right? they want a 3 to 1 ratio of tax revenue to spending cuts. that's three times as much spending cuts as tax revenue. and these folks walked away from the deal. i think we need to reorder our understanding of the stimulus package. the stimulus came into place to plug holes that were left in our gaping economy as a res

a bunch of economists at lehigh university in pennsylvania, they sat around with their thinking caps just to figure it out. you know what this really shows, don, how popular the "harry potter" franchise is. we see it, kids dress like harry and they are lined up in advance to get books and all sort of other things. there a big cult following. okay. let me answer your question. how much would a hogwarts education cost if there was such a thing? drum roll. more than $43,000 and only one year. tuition is the biggest chunk. remember, harry, he needs a unique list of school supplies. the usual textbooks and seven go for about $500 and three robes, another $500 and he needs a wand and gloves and a cloak and pointed hat. the group looked up these items on amazon to price them. now to compare, $42,000 is what it costs to go to columbia university here in new york and it's more than a year at harvard. so just to send your kid off to become a wizard, it's going to price you out of the ballpark, i'd say. >> i say it costs zero because it doesn't exist. >> there you go! >> i could have done the c