would like to speak to a group at the sec and know what they were doing and tied the board room with lehman brothers. they give us some and you into not being able to press firms into doing more. i would like to know what they knew about and what they fell about what they could and could not do. host: last phone call. new jersey. richard on the republican line. caller: i think we need more practical solutions rather than ruminating about the details to the complicated problem, like this. the state that you made earlier, falling money, is most profound. we should already adapt what is being done. if people obtain a mortgage fraudulently, eventually, they are going to pay the piper because the bank will lien their home. and the irs does the same thing. if you defraud the same thing in taxes, they will clean your property. what i mean is these are disincentives to do that act. rather than allowing these people cart launched -- carte blanche to do these things, we need to provide disincentives so that they do not do any of this. i think that is a practical solution, and i would like to hear more from yo