emily: tell me your first meeting with lei jun.o: our first meeting was a four-hour meeting, which tends to be the case with lei jun, by the way. very deep, involved discussions. he is that kind of guy. it was a dinner in beijing sometime in late 2012. we spent time talking about everything, really. from mobile to internet to brazil and cars. i found him to be one of the most fascinating people that i've ever met. you know, at the same level of someone like andy rubin. his ability to understand consumers, think so many years ahead. four hours flew by like 10 minutes. so it was a pretty amazing experience. so this was lei jun, bin, and me, you know, in a translated conversation. emily: so lei jun did speak to you in chinese? hugo: in chinese, yeah. emily: and bin translated. hugo: and bin translated. it was a surreal but amazing experience. emily: so you are a happy google employee, you are at the top of android -- how do you decide to take this job? hugo: there was part of me that always wanted to try something new. beyond that was