the west was supporting gadhafi absolutely but my question to you is whether you think people off leiby at that point of time were ready for that freedom if they had a now how they were at how do you you can't tell except of to see what happens when they try and in neighboring tunisia. things are not perfect but they do seem to have a democracy it's the power party in power is islam ist which is the means not respecting human rights not wanting to respect human rights properly but it looks like they're going to have another free election that's a sobering syria they have at syria things have gone horribly there we have iraq of course in iraq it wasn't because of a democratic revolution it was because of foreign conquest and occupation. the saddest case i'd say is egypt where it appears that they've gone back to the sort of military government that they had under mubarak just without mubarak but i don't know whether it's possible to predict these things and i question the idea that you can assert in a general sense these people are not ready for democracy maybe it's just that they haven'

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