so i can't sorry, leilani. >>— , so i can't sorry, leilani. >> sorry, leilani.our sound out. we'll come to anime manga and so. so leilani sorry. anime leilani's point is that he hasn't been charged with any crime. >> no, i know that. >> no, i know that. >> but it's not like a bloke down the pub is saying that he has done these things and it's a crack team of journalists who have managed to uncover all these allegations from the sunday times channel 4 and then people are coming forward now to corroborate them and it's a cue for the police to get involved. >> and so, yes, he hasn't been charged with anything yet. but look , this is how harvey look, this is how harvey weinstein and gary glitter and who else or all these guys got caught out by allegations in the first place that were followed up. so what's wrong with it? and also, if he was a decent guy , he also, if he was a decent guy, he just stepped down himself while this was being investigated rather than fighting for his carry on as normal because things are far from normal. >> so leilani , it doesn't sound >

so i can't sorry, leilani. >>— , so i can't sorry, leilani. >> sorry, leilani.our sound out. we'll come to anime manga and so. so leilani sorry. anime leilani's point is that he hasn't been charged with any crime. >> no, i know that. >> no, i know that. >> but it's not like a bloke down the pub is saying that he has done these things and it's a crack team of journalists who have managed to uncover all these allegations from the sunday times channel 4 and then people are coming forward now to corroborate them and it's a cue for the police to get involved. >> and so, yes, he hasn't been charged with anything yet. but look , this is how harvey look, this is how harvey weinstein and gary glitter and who else or all these guys got caught out by allegations in the first place that were followed up. so what's wrong with it? and also, if he was a decent guy , he also, if he was a decent guy, he just stepped down himself while this was being investigated rather than fighting for his carry on as normal because things are far from normal. >> so leilani , it doesn't sound >

i think what you're saying leilani, leilani, is that it's addressing a symptom, not the root cause of what would create a meaningful learning experience for students. and then, you know, hearing about being more, more explicit and clear in the final bullet point about what that means in terms of our actions. so we'll work on revising these. again, it's not necessarily for you. you've adopted the guardrails. we felt like specific for this conversation. it was important to you. it was important to make sure that we are clear on how we're going to proceed with this work. but now to commissioner matamata's point, how are we going to proceed with this work? so let's talk about that. this will be the final section of this part of the of the workshop . great. thank you, superintendent and commissioners, i apologize, guys, for clarity. we're going to try and reset some of these slides as we were reflecting on what would make the most sense to talk through with them. so i just want to start off as we talk about now that we've had the chance to discuss these key drivers of our current circumsta