the marines will get leiter they were -- get lighter. they will be able to get somewhere fast and when any five when they get there. threat is china? >> what we would like to day and the president and secretary of defense has said this -- what we would like to do it and the president and secretary of defense has said this, we would like to engage in china. we do not fear a rise of china or brazil or countries that are growing that are coming up economically and militarily. that is not the issue. that is not transparency. why are they building the types of equipment? why are you building the type of military? we would like to work together on this. it is in everybody's best interest. >> they have half of an aircraft carrier? >> they have an old soviet. i may be wrong. an old russian carrier that they have now got at sea. we will see how that works. they are clearly moving into this area. in terms of whether they are valuable or not, that is a pretty good notion that other people think. >> every time you see the figures that our navy is 10

at the world globally. al-qaeda, in my view, is still very active in northern africa, and michael leiter, the former counterterrorism chief says that there's still a serious challenge there. al she bob is a chapter of al-qaeda in somalia. in northern africa there is al-qaeda in the islamic maghreb. in nigeria there's a group which is carrying off huge numbers of attacks both on western targets and internal religious targets against christian churches and the like. and it appears to me that they either have an al-qaeda connection or use the same tactics. so we have to be able to look at these different places at once. as to the minimum wage, i'm a strong believe that a strong minimum wage is necessary, it is very important to protect the livings of people that particularly at this time, it gets to the point if you don't have an adequate minimum wage where people simply can't make ends meet even if they're working two, three jobs, people and the couple. the minimum wage, i think, is a good program, and i have, of course, when i was in both the state senate and the u.s. senate consistently