we're joined by: len elmore a sportcaster and former collegiate and professional basketball player.gill, professor of public policy at the university of texas at san antonio, and founder of the "student- athlete's human rights project," an advocacy group. >> emmett gill, let me start with you much does the student athlete equation need rebalancing or a complete overall? how would you define the role today? >> jeffrey absolutely. i think it definitely needs rebalancing. i wouldn't say a complete overall because i think we are moving in the right direct when we talk about cost of living stipends and four-year scholarships and nonetheless i think that two issues that are on the table that definitely need reform is the issue of use in name and likeness and the issue of who takes care of the health bills once the student athletes eligibility has expired. >> brown: len, let me ask you the same general question first. how do you see the balancing act now? >> well i think and i agree with emmett gill that it requires rebalancing. i mean the definition of amateurism has changed and we need t