and len fong appeared at every one of the hearings and told the hearing officer that at&t's application was in corners with the san francisco works act. so if there's no basis on the administrative record to deny those appeals because proper notice wasn't right >> okay. >> okay. no other questions we'll hear from the department mr. fong. >> good evening john fong from the department of public works. the argument from at&t resolves around the water and the second one is the timing for process i'd like to address the interrelation of maintaining facilities first. the surface water was written in 2005 by then director ed lee. as part of the intent for the writing of this surface mounting facility orders was to minimize the impact upon the general public to minimize the natures that's put with that. at&t suggesting that in someways the department of is limiting in terms of the approval. let me go and try to address this some of elements. if we go to specifically the notice of at no time to submit which is after we received the package from a utility agree for the specific location we evalua