well, this week i met with microbiologist doctor lena cilic and she told me how.cts on your phone. you can simply use soap and water. unplug your phone, turn it off and remove the case. dampen a microfibre cloth with water & household soap. gently rub the surfaces of the phone with the damp cloth. take care not to get moisture in any of the openings because even water—resistant phones lose their protection over time. finally, dry your phone with a clean microfibre cloth. we haven't used any anti—bacterial or antiviral gel on these phones so how do we know they are clean? we can use these swabs and this device which tells us the level of microbial activity on the phone in relative light units, or rlus. so the higher number we get, the higher number of germs. the results are pretty good. so we would want a surgical surface to have a rating of 50 or less and all of the phones have readings of less than this, so that's pretty good. so they're significantly cleaner with just soap and water? yep, they are. how is that possible without using antiviral gel? what's going o