it's played in a wonderful performance buy lena hatey. she's not a pleasant woman, but by explaining her trauma, we understand her behaviour a little more. you write in the past oftentimes women were bit players in the whole theme, it was more about the men who ended up being heroes. >> absolutely. >> and nowadays the me are more interesting -- men are more interesting characters, because they are main characters, and established members of society. on the other hand, should we be concerned that rape is being used. it's to be used to humanize characters, to say the least are difficult, if not downright cruel like on game of thrones. >> sure. >> or clare on "house of cards." >> i understand it can be convenient short-hand. what distinguishes the shows from some of the network uses is a woman doesn't become nicer or less reckless or cruel because we understand that she's been sexually assaulted. we under the behaviour in certain circumstances, but it does not forgive it. >> you quote another writer, a woman named jacqueline freedman, how sh