. >> rose: leningrad. >> leningrad, the siege of leningrad.s, endless history, the whole history of warfare in-- on the human planet has been one of innocent people dying basically. >> rose: i have been told by national security officials in the united states of where was a certain person and had they had him in their sights and they y didn't you kill him?and i said d they said because family was there. >> yes. >> rose: and then they said, though, depending on the level of power of the person, they would be prepared under certain circumstances to order a hit because it was so important. >> yes. >> rose: to stop. >> and that is the situation we have in this film. un, we're not saying every single drone strike would take this shape. but in a-- a drone strike that we are showing in the movie, would absolutely take the shape. >> rose: if you kill this man you are clearly going to be saving lives because he can order all kinds of assassinations and terrorist acts? >> well, more, in the case of our movie, it's those suicide bombers, who are going of

leningrad.ss history, the whole history of warfare on the human planet has been one of innocent people dying. charlie: i have been told by national security officials, where was a certain people and they have said to me yes, and why didn't you kill him. they said because the family was there. then they said depending on what the level of power of the person, they would be prepared under certain circumstances to order a hit. because it was so important. helen: that is the situation in this film. we are not saying every single drone strike would take the shape but in a drone strike that we are showing in the movie would absolutely take the shape. charlie: because he can order all kinds of assassinations and terrorist acts. helen: more in the case of our movie. it is the suicide bombers who are going to bomb a shopping mall. either they kill them here or if they get out, they are in the public might they cannot target them. they are going to set off a bomb and kill far more people. that is the issu

everywhere from palermo to leningrad, they seemed to be emblems of a disaster that people will come and gate at for centuries to come. so by the end of the century the bulgarian artist christo had wrapped it. [laughter] outstrips ourays prophetic power. but there was an enormous imagination of disaster, understandably so after the war's and depression. >> a question back here? >> thank you. that was wonderful, by the way. [laughter] a question. do you have anything about the harlem renaissance in your book? >> i have some. this is not easy. so many brilliant books have been written about the harlem renaissance. there is a line that i wish that i had put in. franklin, a great historian. chapter-- we had a what they should talk about is continuing the harlem renaissance. his answer was, "yes." and as from the 1930's 1940's and includes some of the very same people. there were ridiculous certainly, james baldwin could not have anticipated becoming james boy in when he was a bus the village. but as i say, in that perspective, i would like to put in more where that was one of those chapters

the charred ruins from from palermo to leningrad, they seemed to be emblems of a disaster that people will come and gape at for centuries to come. so by the end of the century the bulgarian arst christo had wrapped. [laughter] the future always outstrips our prophetic power. but there was an enormous imagination of disaster, understandably so after the two wars and depression. >> a question back here? >> thank you. that was wonderful, by the way. [laughter] question. do you have anything about the harlem renaissance in your book? >> i have some. this is not easy. so many brilliant books have been written about the harlem renaissance. i do talk -- there is a line that i wish that i had put in. from john franklin a great , historian. he said -- we had a chapter saying, people talk about "the" harlem renaissance. they should talk about the continuing harlem renaissance. his answer was, "yes." there are many cultural glories in the 1930's and 1940's and , includes some of the very same people. it was very hard on the veterans of the harlem renaissance. there were ridiculous accusations an

. >> rose: leningrad, so endless, endless history, the whole history of warfare on the human plant et has been one of innocent people dying. >> rose: have i been told by national security officials in the unit-- united states of where was a certain person and had they had him in his sights and they had said to me, yes, and i said why didn't you kill him. and he said because the family was there. >> yes. >> rose: and then they said though, depending on what the level of power of the person, they would be prepared under certain circumstances to order a hit because it was so important. >> yes. >> rose: to stop them. >> and that is the situation we have in this film. you know, we're not saying every single drone strike would take this shape. but in a drone strike that we are showing in the movie would absolutely take the shot. >> rose: because you will be saving lives because he can order all kinds of assassinations and terrorist acts? >> well, more that in the case of our movie, it is those suicide bombers who are going off to bomb a shopping mall. so either they kill them here or they,