discuss that i'm now joined by john a stingray an american musician and an avid chronicler of the leningrad rock scene john it's so good to talk to you thank you very much for your time thank you for inviting me now you have a very interesting a very unusual and i think is a somewhat through mantic story you came to the soviet union for just one the week you called but it was big one of our biggest rock stars on his landline and he just showed your around is that how it all began that is how it all began a friend of mine and her older sister was married to a russian emigre when. i heard i was going to visit russia and he knew i was a rocker in los angeles he said you need to call off he's the most famous underground rocker in russia like the bob dylan up russia i do believe there was any rock in russia but i thought ok i'll go and meet him because how cool he think it will be to meet me that i'm an american rocker and i met him and we sat we were at seventh cockles apartment and i played them a couple of songs off an e.p. album i had released here in the states and morris thought it was ver

if another famous leningrad musician wrote the song goodbye america about parting ways with those youthful your dreams i wonder if you ever felt that you were in some way and unofficial ambassador for the mystical america you know what's interesting it wasn't so much the rockers because again i think they got from from the black market or other places they got music articles everything from the west but i think what was interesting was that the average russian people that i would meet through them would all say oh oh we want to be like american had that romantic wish of one. like america and i was telling them then in the eighty's you guys don't understand the price americans pay to be free and i would explain to them that most americans had a thirty year mortgage because you would try to buy a house a thirty year mortgage that would basically make you in handcuffs because if you have a mortgage where you have to pay for thirty years it means you have to make money so i was trying to deflate that romantic vision because it wasn't so perfect i mean america is amazing and it's a free country

just clear my head i can come back and regroup and lo and behold everything that i saw there in leningrad with boris and then the rest of people i met changed my life so it was just the perfect time of me being young enough not really understanding it who i was not understanding life and being very naive and all of a son i meet these people that are so inspiring i mean i think it would be similar if some young person here at that time in eighty's happened to be a friend and hang out with bob dylan or david bowie you know i was just blessed to me the artist and leningrad were just as inspiring and and exciting. as these these famous western musicians so for me it was just fate now john as you said just a moment ago every time you traveled to the soviet union you used to bring all sorts of musical supplies which were difficult to find in leningrad back then but i know that you also smuggled the records out you were absolutely key to releasing a russian rock music in the united states beach was mad with some interest but never made it big is russian rock to country specific to engage western

doll soviet reality was able to produce something that was so free spirited and so genuine as the leningrad proxy how do you yourself explain that phenomena you know it was incredible and of course our first three and half days was in moscow where we do. didn't know anybody so we're on the usual tours with the group and we looked around and even though there were some interesting things the same basis because the two own things it looked very cold people didn't look happy they were wearing dark colors they were all rushing through the streets and i thought wow this is this this is not a great place you know i would never come back again what i found out later when i went to leningrad and met bourse is that behind closed doors russian people were exactly like people all over the world and they were full of color and they were full of expression and full of creativity i was in off by the whole art scene the arts and the music scene in leningrad because nobody in america was aware this could possibly be happening in russia we were so afraid of the soviet union at that time and that's why it ju

discuss that i'm now joined by john a stingray an american musician and an avid chronicler of the leningrad rock scene john it's so good to talk to you thank you very much for your time thank you for inviting me now you have a very interesting a very unusual and i think is a somewhat through mantic story you came to the soviet union for just one the week you called but it is big one of our biggest rock stars on his landline and he just showed you around is that how it all began that is how it all began a friend of mine her older sister was married to a russian emigre when he heard i was going to visit russia and he knew i was a rocker in los angeles he said you need to call boroscope inch cock he's the most famous underground rocker in russia he's like the bob dylan of russia i didn't believe there was any rock in russia but i thought ok i'll go and meet him because how cool he think it will be to meet me that i. i'm an american rocker and i met him and we sat we're at seventh goggles apartment and i played them a couple of songs off an e.p. album i had released here in the states and morri

just clear my head i can come back and regroup and lo and behold everything that i saw there in leningrad with boris and then the rest of people i met changed my life so it was just the perfect time of me being young enough not really understanding it who i was not understanding life and being very naive and all of a son i meet these people that are so inspiring i mean i think it would be similar if young is some young person here at that time and eighty's happened to be a friend and hang out with bob dylan or david bowie you know i was just blessed to me the artist and leningrad. we're just as inspiring and exciting and as these these famous western musicians so for me it was just fate now john as you said just a moment ago every time you traveled to the soviet union you used to bring all sorts of musical supplies which were difficult to find in landing back then but i know that you also smuggled the records out you were absolutely key to releasing a russian rock music in the united states beach was mad with some interest but never made it big is russian rock to country specific to engag

you know it's a complicated answer most of all because i have not seen the movie but when i was in leningrad two months ago they kept asking me about that when i was being interviewed wanted to know they were trying to show me a little piece of the film you know for me. again films aren't always accurate they're based on so that's ok i would say without seeing the film so i can't comment exactly on on the summer film but for me i think the most important thing is that when they're portraying somebody that is known and especially somebody that's that's not alive like victor soy to me it's important to stay at least to the character of who victor was you know if i saw a film that was based on victor but it wasn't a real story and there were a trade victor from being some not nice guy or doing bad things that would really be off because he was not like that at all you know he was so sweet and so genuine so to me portraying any of the people that are famous i think it's important to at least keep the aura of who they were of i don't know if you would agree with that but to me personally it's sor

after their first match of course in leningrad may be.or therefore, garrett southgate will take great encouragement for the way his side have performed. —— gareth southgate. men like kieran trippier, jesse lingard, harry kane andrew pickford have come of age in the last two weeks. and with the likes of harry crane, and dele alli already established, england now build a tea m established, england now build a team for the future. —— harry kane. a lot of good young players now introduced into this site for too long. i think gareth southgate has made hardly the best manager potentially england have had since sir ralph ramsey. he couldn't emulate ramsay the senior but there isa emulate ramsay the senior but there is a huge amount of tend to be happy with. and they must incur from what they have accomplished on and off they have accomplished on and off the field. you mentioned some of the other names. jordan henderson made a telling interview this week where he pointed at those england age groups who we have reporting and have been absolutely b

discuss that i'm now joined by john a stingray an american musician and an avid chronicler of the leningrad rock scene john it's so good to talk to you thank you very much for your time thank you for inviting me now you have a very interesting a very unusual and i think is a somewhat through mantic story you came to the soviet union for just one the week you called but it is big one of our biggest rock stars is blind and he just showed you around is that how it all began that is how it all began a friend of mine her older sister was married to a russian emigre and when he heard i was going to visit russia and he knew i was a rocker in los angeles he said you need to call off he's the most famous underground rocker in russia like the bob dylan of russia i didn't believe there was any rock in russia but i thought ok i'll go and meet him because how cool he think it will be to meet me that i'm an american rocker and i met him and we sat we were at seven partment and i played them a couple of songs off an e.p. album i had released here in the states and morris thought it was very cool and it wa

i have had the opportunity to see it different places in leningrad, it is a stunning thing to think yout all day long in the month of july. back with my guests dan hoffman and ed henry. we're trying to read tea leaves what putin's message is. they talked with global security for both countries. i understand what that means in america. it means protect democracy and make sure it flourishes around the world. what does it mean in moscow? >> it means involve yourself in many regions all over the world, primarily in conflict with your main enemy the united states. and do that so that you have a seat at the bargaining table so you can resolve some of those issues with the united states. the russians create a lot of problems worldwide and then like to sit down at the negotiating table with you and try to solve them. >> bill: so they'll make a move and if there is pushback do they stop or do they continue? >> they don't stop with moral persuasion. you have to wrap them on the knuckles and remind them that we can wield a big stick when we need to. >> bill: ed. >> this is a president in president