when i came and did some or "room" was shot first lenny andith brie and jake a little bit, because we get too familiar with me. i made a choice to not look at it. joan wanted to look at it, but i was like, she would never know where her daughter was. what a before -- what a horrible thing that is. charlie: it would somehow make the fear different, wouldn't it? joan: it would. just the imaginings of what it could be. she could probably imagine it being a whole lot worse than it was, and i didn't want to see that either. i just wanted to have that blank slate. charlie: let's take a look at this. you are trying to explain to jack that there is more in life than the world that he sees. how -- do your remember how alice wasn't always in wonderland? >> she fell down, down deep in a hole. >> i wasn't always in a room. i was little girl named joy. >> no. >> i lived in a house with my mom and dad. you would call them grandma and grandpa. >> what house? >> there was a backyard. we had have xp. we would swing in the hammock's. >> atv house? >> a real house. not tv. are you listening to me? when