birth, the resurrection, jesus' miracles and he sees jesus as a sort of jewish socrates, almost a lenny bruce character, is that right. >> that's right. >> you find no evidence in any of your scholarship, by the way, that jesus was a revolutionary, correct? interi find counterevidence. >> counterevidence? if yes is it he was not a revolutionary nor an insurrectionist. >> not that i can see from the documents. >> was jesus a conservative? >> i don't think so. >> well, in what sense was he unorthodox? >> well, i think that in what sense is what he saying somehow alarming or gripping or revolutionary? >> did he support the tora. >> oh, yes. >> oh, yes. so he did root himself in sources, correct? >> he was a jew. >> that's what i'm getting at, was he not basically conservative. he was -- go ahead. >> well, just it depends on which jew you ask. but it's -- you know, he's certainly within the -- a penumbra of typical jewish practice in the first century but there's something that makes him stand out and that's his belief that the kingdom of god is at hand. >> i hate to say it because this show is -

listening to her account of what he said you're probably not getting the funny version it's just like lenny bruce is famous case where he had a cock testify using his material but using that cobb's delivery when you hear it from a comp it's not funny let's talk about politically political correctness and this country certainly for some people it just goes a little too far and i think you would agree with me and i mean when i say that what do you think are some of the biggest reasons why this is just important to talk about because people are bored and they don't want to deal with their own problems so they create problems but they don't want to confront their boss or their own husband or their horrible whatever their life is they'd rather you have some vicarious nonsense on twitter to yell about including me and this conversation i know they are i want to ask you about this meeting that you're attending the amazing meeting is coming up in las vegas what's this all about. it's just skeptics meeting i guess they've done it since two thousand and three i just got invited to go as a bunch of atheists