. >> earlier we talked to lenny from american university. and we were talking about the battleground states. and he was saying that virginia, we know it's a battleground state. but he thinks virginia in some ways may be the key state. how do you view that? >> here's what i'm going to be looking for at about 8:00, what happened in arlington, fairfax and prince william? did the president over perform his numbers from 2008? did governor romney over perform or under perform from 2008? those numbers will tell a lot about what goes on in the rest of the state. president obama won those three counties in 2008 and split the rest of the state with senator mccain. that's one of the things you want to look for. and particularly ohio and florida. you also have very small county regional areas you can look at and say this might determine what's going to happen in the rest of the state. >> you're a professor of public policy and analyze these types of things quite a bit. super packs. they have really made a difference in this election in terms of the mone