we'll talk with lenny mccallister, a republican analyst, and heather magee, washington director for thec assembly member daniel o'donnell, he was pushing the marriage equality bill in the legislature. let me start with you, lenny. what do you think? is the president -- when he says that his stance on gay marriage is evolving, is that just a way of saying i'm going to say i'm okay with it but after i get re-elected? >> you know, i don't want to pin him down to that. i think this is a complex issue and i'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. he said something in 2008. he is seeing the winds of change come across america. as a liberal he may be evolve ing point of view on this. i'm not willing to say he's flip-flopping so much on this i think he's trying to find the sweet spot politically to save votes, but i think he is trying to find an evolving position. with that said, for him to come out in 2008 and say marriage is between a man and a woman and be caught in this crux, if you will, in such a violent state as new york state, he has a political hard spot he is in now. >> heathe

democratic strategy maria cardona and republican strategist lenny mccallister this morning in his hometowngh. good to see you both. don't even start. good to see you. maria, you couldn't see that, he's putting up the terrible towel there in pittsburgh. but, let's start, maria, as we always do, maria, what was your political headline of the week? >> celebrity noncandidate candidate sarah palin trumps all gop serious hopefuls. >> all right, what was your, lenny, headline of the week? >> public enemy number one, don't believe the hype. >> don't believe the hype. now, explain that one to me. >> well, it's on two sides. from the republican standpoint don't believe the hype. sarah palin is not running for the presidency. she enjoys the camera. this is how she makes her money. how did somebody who quit their first term as governor in alaska explain how they want to be america's next president for the next two terms. she is going to injithis run, make some money and not run for the presidency. from the democratic side, don't believe the hype. every time we keep hearing that the economy is getting

hello to you and lenny mccallister. you give me your political headline of the week. > sarah palin's e-mails, there's a ton, but the question is will she still run? >> lenny, you have to rhyme now whatever your headline was. >> dr. seuss over there, huh? well, very sifrm el. how the mighty are falling. >> how the mighty are falling. let's start here, lenny, with the e-mails. is this much ado about nothing? this was asked about a number of media outlets. this will really have an impact? >> i don't know if it will have much of an impact, with it may give her a softer image which could if she ran, which i don't think she's running, but if she would run it may actually help her seem to be more reasonable when it comes to some of the policies of the obama administration. she's been seen as the republican attack dog since 2008. this is something that could soften her image and make her look even keel and levelheaded than she had been for several years. it may help going down this path. >> even if she decides to run, maria. what happens if she's in the race and michele bachma