. >> leno coastland, it's great to have you onset.at to have you here. >> exciting to be here. >> what advice do you have for folks in terms of just whatever their passion is or direction, that entrepreneurial spirit that's inside all of us? >> i tell peel, if you are an entrepreneur, you have passion, go after what you are passionate about. i generally find -- and this is surprising to people entrepreneurs who chase making a buck tend not to be as successful as entrepreneurs who chase their passion. passion is a key ingredient to real success in entrepreneurship and i item people chase what their passion is what they can get excited. when somebody goes wrong, they will bang their head against the wall instead of giving >> that's what entrepreneurship takes. i am a huge fan. it's patrol the only thing, way more important than policy. the policy helps. it's way more important than policy in solving world's problems. >> can you teach entrepreneurship or is it insnarnt are we born with it? something we can evolve? >> a little bit of both