i'm so, as the lensky huston, peep, sort of the momentum happening. he has to sort of the attention to the western partners that this is really relevant that this is an important role that needs to continue learning still happen. and what's going to take time of you, are you talking about victory for the ukrainians? from the ukrainian perspective, it is clear that if they want to dislodge the russians, that is not going to be easy. the russians are building i reinforcements in the areas that they already occupy. there are several sort of layers where they're digging in. they're kind of learning how to be done, effective defensive force. so it's going to be more difficult for the ukrainians to carry on effective counter offensive on so far they haven't really mounted one of grade significance. i think it was that they might require a sort of a better control of the space on better ability to deter, sort of artillery from other russians. so i think that they are planning on their thinking much more in the longer term. whereas i think russians, i thinkin