leo kaiser, i unfortunately, only have one time one. what is your biggest beef about the healthcare. >> there has not been an adjustment for the eight years that the people live longer today than in 1965 when medicare was first adopted. the political leadership is bankrupt with respect to telling people that we need to adjust for that fact. >> geraldo: and let me go back now. i hear the rain hitting the hull of the sailing vessel voyager. where is it? >> this is the outer band here and hitting us right square on the head. all the rain and wind out there right now, just about 140 miles from the eye. >> geraldo: and it won't come any closer, though, so it will be -- the wind obviously will increase. the surf being driven onshore on the south facing beaches. >> 12-foot waves tomorrow and they are really worried. >> in nova scotia is that ground zero for hurricane bill. >> it will have a more devastating effect on nova scotia than it is here. >> take you outside above deck on voyager and the weather has gotten a whole lot worse and it will

ann you have a situation where my buddy the conservative republican lawyer leo kaiser talking about the trillions of dollars in deficit of medicare right now. we can't keep going. we have to do something. or is doing something on that institutional scale just impossible because the right won't let the left win and vice versa? >> doing something useful is very possible. that's all of the republicans are suggesting. by the way you raise an appointment point of medicare you keep seeing this argument for national healthcare we have to extend medicare to the people over the age 65. you are trying to keep people rich by bringing bernie madoff out of retirement. medicare is bankrupt. what funds medicare is the private healthcare within the system. most doctors and hospitals lose money on the medicare payments. something has to be done as i keep suggesting on your program. i am suggesting competition. that always leads to better service. >> if i haven't said it before, ann, let me hasten to add i think that is a good idea. but to think that's going to solve this problem, i think it's sophomoric