he did a fund-raiser with democrats and he said i want you to do everything possible to work for leo panetta. he said it several times. and we took in stride because he was enjoying himself. but from then on when i did get elected and it went to congress, another congressman was japanese-american and tip would causally called me norm and would call him the on. but that carter white house would screwed up as well. the carter white house monday italian prime minister came to town they flew norma to the white house when the japanese prime minister they invited me. finally we put a baseball team together and played under this sign of the rising pizza. [laughter] >> host: one thing we see in the book mr. secretary with the president clinton crime bill we saw that in speaker o'neill as the effective speaker but what is it that he did that you did then that is now missing? >> guest: they would roll up their sleeves and wanted to get it done. tip o'neill was political, a democrat from boston, all politics is local.