my teacher, leon fleischer seemed to impart more ideals and principles that could guide us into furtheronsciously or unconsciously you end up sounding like your teacher. [thundering piano chord] jennifer kim has been taking piano lessons with me since she was five years old and she's playing very advanced repertoire now. she is understanding it on a really deep level at this point, and i'm kind of guiding her almost as a coach. i give her a little more space. i hear so much thumb. (kim) i think that when i was around five or so my main goal was trying to get a sticker on my page. to say, "yeah, by october 22nd i got this piece right." the ear is going to hear this [plays] right? (kim) i think very recently i looked at music on a totally different level where i dissect the piece first in my mind. and then i try to work it out in my hands. (pagano) i do find a point where there's a very profound change and it usually happens around the age of 13 or 14. they all of the sudden understand what music means to them. they're moved by it, and it is part of them and it's become part of their life