moment, and, you know, you look at the predecessors, hagel's predecessors, look at robert gates and leon paetta have h complained in their memoirs about the white house's micromanaging of the military policy. so the question would be is carter even going to be allowed to do his job if he's the right guy to do it? >> no, because we know the white house has been dictating the dod's policy and strategy and ideology from 1600 pennsylvania avenue. we had general jack keane right here on this couch, and he said as much. he mentioned valerie jarrett and others that are setting the tone and the policy. and, sandra, when you look at panetta, a clinton guy, when you look at now carter, a clinton guy, and you look at hagel who's a republican but not a very hawkish republican, these are not terribly, i would say, you know, the most red meat of folks. and even they got to the dod and realized that certain policies, hagel in particular, on the transfer of these gitmo detainees out of gitmo, he couldn't get behind it. i mean, there are certain things that these e defense secretaries look at and say this i