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leon panetta, you, things you have said in the past. there's one core part of the report.he allegation and he is citing unnamed sources, but the allegation the pakistani government knew from the beginning, i.e., up to four years osama bin laden was in the country, and he said they were effectively his captors, they were harboring him. you said in 2009 you said bin laden was in pakistan. when you hear this core part of this does it make sense to you that the pakistani government knew? >> that's a great question. we all thought that osama bin laden was inside pakistan. the pakistanis i think, came to that conclusion. we could never, ever find evidence and we looked really hard before the raid and after, to find direct evidence of pakistani complicity. there was kind of an assumption somebody had to know. i wouldn't doubt that. but i don't think it was the senior parts of the pakistani government. never seen anything to convince me that's true. >> what you're saying it's possible some people did know in the pakistani government but you don't think it went to the top? >> it's

pakistanis told that were meetings between the head of the pakistani intelligence service and leon panettathat i write about. i write about them based on -- well, you get to read the article to find out. i write about it very carefully. one of the questions i was asked is, why did you do this to us? particularly, why bring in the saudis? the pakistanis are very close to saudi arabia and there's always been a chronic fear the great islamic bomb might even give the saudis a bomb. we really have a serious concern about maintaining great relations. they're very good right now with us in the pakistani military. anyway, and so the answer that was given -- i will just take it exactly what it was. the way they explained it, first of all, they told the saudis and the saudis a meal he said, do not tell the americans about him. why? i can only give you the obvious reason that was given. because the last thing saudi arabia wants is the united states to begin interrogating osama bin laden and discover who might have been giving him money in saudi arabia in 2001 and 2002. and even after. that is not com

it was embarrassing for lots of reason >> reporter: leon panetta last fall explaining why they kept pakistan in the dark. >> the pakistanis would usually tip off the people we were going after. and they were gone. so we decided we can't trust them. >> reporter: today one of the president's frequent republican critics disputes hirsch's account. >> i have never heard of anything like this. i have been briefed several types. this is a great success on the part of the administration and something that we all admire the president's decision to do. >> reporter: nbc news independently learned from two intelligence source that is a pakistani officer told the u.s. where bin laden was hiding a year before the raid, something the white house disputes. that doesn't necessarily conflict with the white house claim that the u.s. acted alone. lester? >> andrea, thank you. we are back in a moment with michelle obama's powerful message to graduates. the first lady like we have never, or rarely heard her before. >>> this is graduation season which means commencement speeches. and michelle obama gave one over t

. >> reporter: and leon panetta saying why they kept pakistan in the dark. >> they would usually tipeople we were going after and they were gone. we decided we can't trust them. >> reporter: today one of the president's frequent republican critics dispute it is account. >> i have never heard of anything like the this. i have been briefed several times. this was a great success on the part of the administration and something we all admire the president's decision to do. >> reporter: nbc news has learned from two intelligence source that is a pakistan officer told the u.s. where bin laden was hiding a year before the raid something the white house disputes. that doesn't necessarily conflict with the white house claim that the u.s. acted alone. lester? >> thank you. we are back in a moment with michelle obama's powerful message to graduates. the first ♪ ♪ ♪ at chase, we celebrate small businesses every day through programs like mission main street grants. last years' grant recipients are achieving amazing things. carving a name for myself and creating local jobs. creating more programs

maria bartiromo sat down with leon panetta.at this is the one that used to keep me up at night. the potential for a cyber attack on the united states. we have seen cyber attacks grow. when i was at the cia i think we were getting about 1 million attacks a day at the cia. that tells you the level of cyber attacks that are trying to penetrate our information system. >> that is the latest from the fox business network. giving you the power to prosper. ♪ you can call me shallow... but, i have a wandering eye. i mean, come on. national gives me the control to choose any car in the aisle i want. i could choose you... or i could choose her if i like her more. and i do. oh, the silent treatment. real mature. so you wanna get out of here? go national. go like a pro. melissa: every corner of the globe, money is flying around the world today. starting in saudi arabia. john kerry meeting with the exiled president of yemen. a five day cease-fire in yemen's war. reaching millions of civilians. saudi arabia says it will stop its airstrikes as

. >> and he finds allies in hillary rodham clinton and leon panetta, who was his predecessor at cia and now the defense secretary. and they push this idea, and they say, "it's time for us to get involved. we can't stay on the sidelines." >> my view was if we really want the rebels to succeed, the only way we could do that, the only way we were gonna get credibility with those that were fighting on the streets and dying, was to be able to provide the weapons they needed in order to confront assad. >> smith: the administration was deeply divided. recent history provided contradictory lessons. >> we were driven in part by our impulse learned in the balkans about the necessity of u.s. intervention in the balkans to help end a humanitarian emergency, to help deal with brutal dictators. but also very mindful of the lesson we took from iraq, where the insertion of american power, the overextension of american power in iraq brought tremendous hardship onto the people of iraq, on our country. >> smith: perhaps the strongest advocate for arming the rebels was samantha power, head of obama's newly

this morning leon panetta warns of major potential effects of cyber cyberattacks in the u.s. >> thisep me up at night, which was the potential for a cycker attack on the united states. we've seen cyberattacked grow. when i was at the. crying , i think we -- -- cia i think we were getting a million attacks a day. >> finally better go to your local pharmacy to pick up tissues, and antihistamines, allergy sufferers in northeast northeast are suffering through a pollen tsunami. with the tree and flower pollen. and those are some stories in news. >> we have all heard well severe drought plaguing southern california. a new plan to build a water plant that would turn salt ocean water to drinking water is underway, fox business' robert gray is in carlsbad california! where the plant is located. >> thank you so much, you can see pacific here, unlimited aim of water back there in an area that needs water. here is how it works water comes in here, under the bridge it flows into the lagun, the desalination plant is still under construct, under a nrg power plant, the buying guy with the smokestac

liz: the world is behaving strangely, and leon panetta was on the network, more than a billion attacksy. once it passes a million an hour nobody cares. there are nefarious people out there trying to weasel their way in. what keeps you up at night? >> we have 200 million active users. we last year protected or stopped 3.9 billion attacks. on consumers. so 3.9 billion attacks. we went from five years ago, being able to sort of protect somebody in half a day. we're now able to protect and stop a threat in less than 40 seconds. so but that number needs to be down to 10 seconds. we moved everything to the cloud. the way threats are coming in now are way different than they used to be 10 years ago. how do we keep up? we're working very, very hard. that is partially driving our success. we changed technology in a great way. it's a game. it is a game of chase. liz: great to see you. >> great to see. >> thank you very much. gary kovacs, ceo of avg technology. can you wrap your mind around it. that many attacks stopping in 40 seconds? david: we need a good private sector solution like gary could

. >> narrator: at the cia, leon panetta was the new director appointed by president obama in 2009. they shut down the program and now panetta ordered his own parallel investigation. >> it was not an unprecedented thing for a cia director to do. the idea is before you, or as you are turning over documents to this investigating committee, you want to know, for the sake of your institution, what it is you're turning over. >> narrator: both investigations would continue in secret. then in 2011, the killing of osama bin laden would reopen the public debate. >> where was the last time you saw bin laden? >> narrator: and on movie screens, the cia's version of the story: that eits led to bin laden. >> we've got a possible jackpot. >> roger that, possible jackpot. (gunshot) >> this is red zero two. geronimo. for god and country. geronimo. >> narrator: now the effectiveness of the eit program was firmly fixed in the minds of millions of americans. >> any station, this is red zero two. we need a body bag. >> movies like zero dark thirty have a huge impact. more people see them and more people

leon panetta in his book said the pakistanis did not know -- they did not tell the pakistanis, because they leaked. every time they told the pakistanis anything, it got out. it was a tip that would then blow the source. so they did not tell them. i absolutely believe all of the multiple sources we have had all these years that the high-level pakistani officials, the pakistani government did not know. what we don't know from our reporting is how high up that information about abbottabad went. or that osama bin laden was in any way was under house arrest. we have always assumed at some level pakistani military, because of the existence a mile away of their version of west point, needed, you know -- certainly knew that osama bin laden was there. but i do not believe in any fashion that pasha and pay onny knew this raid was taking place. we knew contemporaneously that night they scrambled their jets but the other direction because they thought it was india violating their air space. their long-time adversary. so it's very clear to me from all of my reporting at the time and since that paki

remember that group of 20 liberals, barbara boxer, leon panetta. they were all married people with solid marriages. commuted across the country. they hugged together to keep everything together. they were all good people. so there's a lot of really good straight arrow members of congress who are loyal to their families and wives and husbands. it's a very clean operation. prudish operation, most of it. cases like this pop out. i go with the old rule, i think it's better than it looks. personally. >> i know it is, too. i understand why the public doesn't believe me. >> it creates a vicious cycle for the institution of congress which is more and more of these scandals come out. fewer and fewer really great quality candidates want to run for office. that's what we are seeing, i think, in public office today. being a member of congress is no longer honorable in most parts of the country, which is sad. >> it is. that will have a recurring cycle. amy, i want to get to one thing about this hastert thing. how did he become so wealthy? how is a guy who had a

>> listen you've already seen bob gates book that was very critical you've seen leon panetta that was even more critical. you've seen now mike morell, you've seen talking out on sunday talk shows including fox news sunday and hour show general michael flynn or former dia head. you've seen a lot already. and i think you're going to see more. that paint this picture of ad mirrors that has a view and president that has a view and perhaps they're not taking cues from intelligence officials on a host of issues. >> it was very much a political view gears towards the 2012 election. bin laden is dead, general motors is alive. and then that was followed up with isis is the jv team unwillingness to accept the magnitude of the threat. that is my bottom line. yours? >> yeah, well i think that is a fair assessment and people make that assessment they point to a number of things that back that up. and moore can say this factors into benghazi as welling when you have the white house telling susan rice to go out there and say something about an anti-islam video that was never in the cia's talking poi

look after the raid was successfully conducted we knew from then cia director leon panetta that he waspakistanist had had specific information about bin laden's location. so that they may have known something is not really all that shocking. i think it's ridiculous to think there would have been a walk-in to a u.s. government facility in the region with that kind of information. it was well-known that the pakistanis were watching our facilities. somebody with that sort of information would most certainly have not walked into one of our facilities. >> peter bergen, you have done amazing reporting on all of this. the assertion from seymour hersh is there was cooperation with pakistan in going after bin laden in abadabad. u.s. officials insist they didn't trust the pakistanis. they would have fear they'd moved bin laden out of there in advance. >> the physical evidence and the evidence from eyewitnesses about what happened that night completely contradicts hersh's assertion that there wasn't really a raid that the pakistanis cooperated with the s.e.a.l.s and the sales sort of waltzed in a

clinton and chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, martin democratsy and secretary of defense leon panetta. he rejected the advise from -- advice from his most senior national security advisors. instead the president publicly remarked in january of last year that isil was the j.v. team of terrorist groups. and just a few months ago president obama boldly said that isil was -- quote -- "on the defensive" -- close quote. let me repeat that. just a few months ago president obama claimed isil was on the defensive. well that's not exactly the case today, nor was it really then. and it's not exactly the picture of the kind of leadership that we need from our commander in chief. by giving our troops a difficult mission to degrade and ultimately destroy isil but not providing them with a strategy and the resources they need to do so, the president is essentially making them operate with one more hand tied behind their back. now, we know we have the most capable military in the world. but we can't win a fight with our hand tied behind our back. or with these constraints politically correct restrain