white house correspondent peter baker, the senior scholar at johns hopkins health and security and leon panetta at the pentagon and cia. kristen, president trump backing down under pressure for the talk he was going to dismantle the white house task force. the task force that included all of those health care officials, now saying also that more lives will be lost with the reopening, but that is what we're going to have to deal with, the price we're paying i guess for reopening, for returning to normal. how does he weigh that balance, saying more people will die? >> andrea, i think it underscores the pressure the president feels as though he's under to try to get the economy and parts of the country back up and running again. this is a president who was planning to run on re-election on the economy, to tout the strong economy, and now deep concerns within this administration and within his campaign frankly that this crisis will undoubtedly undermine that argument, and that's in part why he feels so much urgency to try to turn the corner, and in part why you see the reversal that you just mapped

leon panetta, thank you for your time. you called it a day version and given the political season that is six months away from the election. do you think bill barr is guilty of that, is that what you're saying? >> i just think that at a time when the country is overwhelmed by this crisis, 2,000 people dying per day and almost 86,000 dead total, 36 million out of jobs, i think the main focus of the president, i think the main focus of democrats ought to be on how to deal with this major crisis. i know there are other political issues and conspiracies bouncing around but i think all of them would do well in the american people would ask them to basically focus on the major problem that is confronting this country and that is the coronavirus. >> bill: it appears that both stories will continue and we will follow both. thank you for your time today, leon panetta hunkered down in monterey, california. here's a present from earlier today at the white house. speak to another essential pillar of our strategy to keep america open i

we will ask leon panetta to shed some light on that matter.ll and the trillion dollar ask from house democrats and the kentucky ag challenge for the governor on the rules over church during covid-19. see you in a few minutes at the top of the hour, on "bill hemmer reports." ♪ >> dana: at the navy releasing hazard reports from some ufo sightings including descriptions from pilots about what they saw during the encounters. todd piro has more. >> dana, great to hear from you. they are out there or at least something is documented, just released by the navy showing pilots having a close encounter with something in the sky. in one radar, they picked up the silver or object to the size of a suitcase passing and within a thousand feet of a jet over the ocean off of virginia beach. in another also off of virginia beach a fighter pilot reported what looked like us mike flying a sphere encasing a cube with smoke coming out of it about the shape of a drone or missile. the report went on to say that no other agencies conducting drone or missile activities

with me to discuss the administration's handling of the pandemic is leon panetta, former defence secretarytaff — who worked for president clinton and president obama. thank you for being here on bbc news. how important is that warning? as president trump pushes for the economy and states to open up again? it is extremely important. obviously in this country, the american people are very concerned. that if we open up are very concerned. that if we open up too quickly, without taking the proper precautions necessary in order to make sure that we have a handle on the coronavirus, that we will have that sudden spike in increased cases of coronavirus, and that could set us back. well obviously we are all interested in reopening our economy, ourfirst interest has to be on making sure we have taken interest has to be on making sure we have ta ken every interest has to be on making sure we have taken every necessary interest has to be on making sure we have ta ken every necessary step to protect the health of the american people. why do you think the response has been so chaotic? there was a pande

we have suggests that this has been done successfully if you look at someone like leon panetta, a pretty partisan guyana congress and when he was bill clinton's chief of staff, but was an outstanding director of the central intelligence agency. or if you take someone like bob gates, lifelong intelligence professional, but since he left the government it's pretty clear he is a republican and supported republican candidates for office since he got out of office even though he served in a democratic administration. they have a similar need for separating politics from intelligence. this is something that can be done and has been done in the past. i wanted to see if you have comments about those precedents, or how you will separate politics from intelligence? rep. ratcliffe: i appreciate the question, senator. earlier i talked about the fact that i am very much love representing the people here in congress. but i held an apolitical job as u.s. attorney. i represented the united states botheither party and kept parties out of everything that i did. i have done that, and done it successfully,