it was maybe to remind people of that, and then to undermine with the speeches from leon panetta and edwin gayego and others and her strong defense of what it means to be an american to essentially disqualify donald trump as not just unserious but as a serious threat. >> that's right. i mean, democrats came into this convention, and what they wanted to do was put on display that this is not just an election about vice president harris and the future of this country and whether or not they want to be a decent and kind and inclusive america or you want to go back to a time when america was -- where people were discriminated against against gender and other identifiers. that was the these theies of this. there was also joy. they were really leaning into this idea that democrats are going to be able to usher in a future in america where people can feel hope again, where people can feel good again, where people will feel enthusiastic about the future, and in that speech last night what we saw from vice president harris was really a speech where she laid out her credentials, but she also l

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god bless our veterans and god bless our country. >> leon panetta giving a rousing national securityi should tell you, harris has arrived. she is in the building now at the united center in chicago. >> i am the proudest arizona and you will ever meet. but, i am even prouder to be a marine. my mom raised us alone on a secretary's salary. i slept on the floor. i worked every job i could meat- packing, construction, making pizzas. i made it to harvard with no money or connections. other kids were happy because they were at harvard. i was happy because i finally had a mattress. then, i enlisted, fought alongside my brothers with lima 325 in iraq. they called us lucky lima, but our luck ran out. we saw some of the heaviest combat of the war and when we got home, the government failed to help us readjust. we have a duty to care for our patriots who serve our nation. for the vietnam veteran in buckeye who relies on the va for his medication, for the veteran in pittsburgh and finally got treatment for his ptsd, for the marine in milwaukee relies on the benefits she earned, for my brothers an

that's how you win in his country. >> leon panetta is going to come for, you he knows i had nothing to do with it. i am here being kind. >> he's a guy who got been love and i don't want to i don't want that's what i'm trying to say. >> it was a warning to you, paul when you or on the flight, you know what i'm going to apologize. i'm going to start with you. okay. because because the women in the room what did you see? women were really centered during this debate and in a very powerful way, they took the stage one after the other and told their stories. yes, mended to. but it seemed that women were centered. is that something that you think is important because i'm asking because the polling shows that donald trump still has the majority of men a majority of men compared to kamala harris right? >> but kamala harris has the majority of women overall plus 17 and that is remarkable because as paul knows in 2016, it was white suburban women who elected donald trump. and in 2017 team. i mean in 2020, donald trump actually increased his voting share, their so where, what's the difference? th

in the meantime leon panetta former u.s. defense secretary white house chief of staff joining us. obviously, you know, americans are very happy and pleased 1 hostages who were held for no reason are finally released. there were some in their health for quite some time. i do wonder though about what you get for that because some nefarious individuals including a hitman for b gave up because he was part of the deal. all in all what you think of this swap? speed all of form of blackmail and the russians pick up these people and make false charges against them and throw them in prison. basically use them as pawns to try to get back people they want. i'm sure the linchpin here was getting present called back. is an assassin for the russians and was under a life sentence in germany. i think once they were able to get germany to be able to provide him i think it was probably a linchpin that opened at out to the ability to get these others back. obviously we are pleased that we could get evan gershkovich back and paul whalen and the other dissidents but in the end the problem is that it c

>> well, it's kind of like leon panetta was saying. in some ways it's a dual-edged sword.their family. it's clear from all accounts that they're innocent and there are trump thed-up charges. and so -- trumped-up charges. and so that's the good ending. the bad part as you and others have mentioned is that a lot of the people we had to give back to the russians truly were bad people, and they had, you know, they had done a number of, you know, transnational kiss runtive activities -- disruptive activities and probably will in the future. so when you take a look at this long term, we have to be very careful about what price we're willing to pay. and i will tell you a lot of it comes from a prevention point of view. i would tell you if you're anybody of any level of notoriety, i would think twice the about going to russia. i will tell you i'm not to going to be vacationing in st. petersburg this summer. neil: you know, i don't know if one has mig today with the other, but you probably heard that defense secretary lloyd austin has scrapped that plea deal that would have provide

on paper, he made the right argument from a guy like leon panetta.t together, you have a very powerful one to punch on the national security -- in terms the work they want to get done for her. >> yeah. amy, i thought this was, and i agree with all of john's analysis here. i thought this was some of the best constructed arguments because they came at the millions of people viewing from home from every place. they came from a veteran, they came from this long trusted hand speaking almost in monotone without hyperbole, without any flowery language. just to sort of testimony to kamala harris's superiority over the alternative in november. and then adam kinzinger is the one that came with the barnburner with his lack of patriotism, lack of fitness. and a. affinity for vladimir putin. >> yeah, it was the perfect 12 punch. you had leon panetta who really people may not know kamala harris, who care about national security, is this person ready to be commander in chief? you have somebody of his background and his experience vouching for her, saying we need he

and niece and speeches from former congresswoman gabby giffords and former secretary of defense leon panetta. now, don't forget, abc news will have special live coverage of the democratic national convention. it all begins at 6:00 tonight and runs until at least 8 p.m, so stay tuned. in the meantime, let's move on to some other matters. in san francisco, a rescue organization for senior dogs is facing a major setback at its brand new location. muttville senior dog rescue says it still doesn't have enough power electricity literally to operate its vet clinic and some worry this means dogs across the state will have to be euthanized as a result. abc seven news reporter lena howland talked with the founder about what's being done to find a solution. >> muttville senior dog rescue has a new home. triple the size of their last location, the only problem? the power, the 29th of july. >> our power went off and it's been off since. >> p-g-and-e's says they worked extensively with muttville to provide guidance on steps needed to ensure safe, reliable and timely electric service. however montville's e

also former defense secretary leon panetta. michigan governor gretchen whitmer, singer pink is also slated to perform, and prime time coverage is expected to start with a performance by the tricks actress kerry washington, also hosting. and make sure to stay with nbc to watch vice president kamala harris accept her nomination tonight. right after the dnc will have our local newscast. but right now, coverage from the dnc in chicago with lester holt, savannah guthrie, nbc news team starts right now >> the first woman of color nominated by a major party in the spotlight on this final night of the democratic national convention. >> and our special coverage starts now. ♪♪ >>> a historic test for vice president kamala harris. >> together we will chart a new way forward! >> the democratic nominee speaking directly to the american people in her first major address since taking over the ticket. >> democrats fired up for the final night of a week-long celebration. ♪♪ turn out for what. >> america, hope is making a comeback. >> kamala har

leon panetta, the former defense secretary, former cia director, as usual. thank you very much for your analysis. we appreciate it very, very much. and were following other breaking news right now out of ukraine, this is significant a rescue operation is underway after officials are discovered that russia launched a deadly airstrike against a supermarket in inside ukraine. the strike caused a fire with very heavy smoke rising above the supermarket at least 14 ukrainians, 14 ukrainian people are dead and dozens, dozens more are injured. cnn's nick paton walsh is joining us right down. nic, you spent a lot of time in ukraine, give us more what else can you tell us? >> yeah, look, we've seen strikes like this happen across ukraine over the past years. civilian targets hit what appears in this case to be with a russian missile. and you can see where the damage they're distributed mostly on the building relative precision of how that appears to have hit. now we'll be talking about a busy friday lunch time will morning roughly when this missile would have heard i'

and you take her speech and you take some of these lines from warmer secretary of defense, leon panetta world. every president has honored our veterans sacrifices. every president, adam kinzinger and congress men ruben gallego. donald trump's disrespect, they were elevated on the biggest stage in american politics and i think they closed the door on the minds of anyone watching on donald trump ever passing the commander in chief test again. >> when she said that commander- in-chief, had the strongest most lethal fighting force in the world. the obligation for care for our truth and the family i will always honor and never disparage their service and their sacrifice. that should not be something that should be and applaud biden any speech. yet, the room erupted at that moment because of the contrast she is drawing by saying that. >> count me among the unsurprised. my experience listening to kamala harris began when tonight host of the convention, kerry washington said to me, would you like to meet the female obama? this was in 2000 my -- first months of the obama presidency. to a century

combatants, and it's not berzon cnn cannot independently confirm those numbers, joining us now is leon panetta, former us defense secretary and former cia director under president obama. obama great to have you here with us. i first just want to ask you about those comments from president biden. mediators are appearing cautiously optimistic. he says they're closer than ever. but there's probably still some ways to go. what's your sense well, look, i think the president deserves a lot of credit for continuing to push to try to get a ceasefire and a hostage exchange and try to see if we can ultimately bring this war to an end. >> but as we've seen, there are some difficult challenges that still remain and those challenges are hamas and whether or not they'll ultimately agree to this and netanyahu in israel whether or not he will ultimately agree. so there's still some challenge punches out there, but i give the united states and the other parties that are part of this effort, a lot of credit for trying because otherwise what could happen here is an escalated war in the middle east with on that n

so critically important and of course leon panetta is one of many people who will make this case aboutcause this is the first female to get the nomination, well not the first female, but the first black and asian american female to get the nomination and so this makes it all that much tougher for a woman to make that case. but it's 2024 and so we hear strength over and over again in this convention. >> as we consider foreign policy issues as well, of course we've talked ail week about the lack of the kind of protest es over the war in gaza, israel's conduct, being as robust as we may have seen. there have been a few dozen arrests. there have been protesters present. but it hasn't been super disruptive to this convention. that doesn't mean that kamala harris can go without talking about it. given the criticism this administration has come under when it comes to israel. how should she be approaching that issue? >> it's one of the most difficult issues for the administration. she's part of that administration. she is going to at some point have to differentiate herself from joe biden. and

, i think that the united states intel community has been at the forefront of so many of these leon panetta in 2010, when we had these ten russian illegals and other people, russians buried into our society pretending to be americans were exchanged leon panetta was at the forefront of that. and our own jim clapper was went to north korea. you get poor. otto warmbier out so, so many of these and of course, during the cold war. but absolutely crucial, i want to, i want to go to you both because we're waiting for the president to speak and i want and i talk about that moment, which is a big one, but really quickly we haven't talked yet about the russians who have been released, particularly the one that i want to ask you about, is the one who is serving was serving a life sentence in germany and assassin former fsb official vadim krasikov. how big of a deal mean the germans did not want to let him go understandably, know exactly because you know, this is about rule of law. and when we were trying to get the germans to release him. and the reason we wanted to release him is because this was the

also former defense secretary leon panetta. michigan governor gretchen whitmer, singer pink is also slated to perform, and prime time coverage is expected to start with a performance by the tricks actress kerry washington, also hosting. and make sure to stay with nbc to watch vice president kamala harris accept her nomination tonight. right after the dnc will have our local newscast. but right now, coverage from the dnc in chicago with lester holt, savannah guthrie, nbc news team starts right now

you had formative fact, defense secretary leon panetta there vouching for her harris herself promised kendra the strongest most lethal we'll fighting force in the world. i wonder if publicans can fectively puncture that with the debacle of thefghan, of afghanistan withdrawal or if it's harder becashe was e vice president annot thcommder inhief. what do u th there waa clr decisi that was made to put leonanetta? talk about the her foreign policy credentials. and xi did address the issues that are going on in gaza and israel afghanistan she did and she did not she did not for the record but so that was a that was a conscious choice where she she included foreign policy in her remarks along with her others of her her other things. and so i think she will continue to talk about all of these issues as she's on the campaign trail. but there was a conscious decision that they made to him include him in there last night. >> very quickly, kendra, how do you think the rfk dynamic effects harris his chances? >> i think i think they're going to continue to go the harris campaign is going to go aft

former cia director, leon panetta it says russia is using for black male. >> the problem is this creates an incentive down the road for them to basically pick up more people in order to get the people back that they want. it is not a very good comforting process. >> dagen: joey jones, retired u.s. marine bomb tech and fox news contributor. joey, great to see you, "the wall street journal" and its editorial also notes even after evan gershkovich's arrest in russia, bogus arrest, the biden administration never arrested russian or expelled russian journalist in the united states. we are not sure why. >> yeah, i don't understand -- i don't want to armchair and i'm not sitting in the room and i don't know the elements of policy, but as an american citizen and someone who covers politics pretty closely, it is not hard to understand misnomer of training someone with supplied weapons in eastern africa in 2000s training someone like that for a celebrity that broke the law in russia. i'm not saying she should have ever been jailed or mistreated or anything like that, but the two things don't compa

>> joining me now, leon panetta, former cia director, former defense secretary in the obama administrationsident clinton and elissa slotkin who is running for the senate, who served at the pentagon under leon and at the cia before running for congress. welcome. i have gotten to know rachel and jonathan very well for the worst possible reasons over these ten months. it's heartbreaking. they have advocated -- this is not a role they want. secretary panetta -- secretary blinken came home yesterday after the ninth shuttle since october 7th unable to seal the deal. >> yeah. i just met with the parents on the floor. i told them that my heart is breaking for them and what they're going through as the father of three sons. i can't imagine having a son be a hostage and particularly in a situation where right now it doesn't seem like it's moving in the right direction. that has to be very frustrating to those parents. >> do you think that benjamin netanyahu, who keeps throwing up obstacles, as does hamas, but in this latest iteration, it was the assassination of the hamas negotiator, haniyeh, a terr

and i thought it was very smart that they had leon panetta of california, former head of cia and defenseremind us that she knows how to deal with international affairs in a time of gaza/israel and ukraine/russia. it's going to be all-important. on the campaign trail now she's going to have to deal with the economic issues. but she nailed the national security part in a big-time way. >> all right. let me go to you, aaron. one of the things that i want to show you -- and this is the end. this isn't the speech, but this is after the speech. we're going to put it up on the screen. this is from sterling brown. this is the family, vice president kamala harris and her family after the speech. it was pretty -- this is actually the ratings first. 28.9 million people watched the speech. that is 500,000 more than watched donald trump's closing night. so, she beat him in the ratings. i know that's going to bother him. but now let's take a look at the stills of the family after the speech. aaron, i think this was something really quite poignant if we can have that. this is element four. you see the k

including leon panetta, john brennan, michael hayden and james clapper sign a letter saying the laptop earmarks of a russian information operation. generated headlines first in politico and substantial tv conch, expose you all as fools and useful idiots for the russians. >> serious questions don't whether the russians are using rudy giuliani to interfere in the u.s. presidential election. >> we do know that it's a very active russian campaign. that's according to the u.s. intelligence community. >> joe biden took the same line in a debate with donald trump. >> look, there are 50 former national intelligence folks who said that what this -- he is accusing me of is a russian plant. >> others, such as npr refused to cover the story. then managing editor terrence samuels saying we don't want to waste our time on stories that are not really stories. when the "new york times" and "the washington post" confirmed the laptop's authenticity a year and a half later, scarborough said he had just been raising questions but it doesn't let the media off the hook. zuckerberg now says feign was wrong a

this is why had leon panetta speaking ahead of her, why they showed her speech from west point and whyed some foreign policy into her speech, completely ignoring the fact that none of the wars that she talked about existed under former president donald trump. they are trying to portray that she was not part of the last 3.5 years, that all the pain she is discussing that has been inflict it on the american people somehow is trump's fault and she hasn't been part of the biden-harris and administration -- which by the way, the white house for three and a half years have been very specific about including her on all of these big projects that she has gone around the country and touted. it was fun, it was a good show, lots of great music, but it was very, very fake and not genuine in terms of the substance. >> jesse: tyrus? >> tyrus: i found her speech humerus. is that the word? humerus? i was confused be a guy thought the writers strike had showed its ugly face because i was watching two different movies on the same channel. whenever the old guys talked, bernie and the president, they woul

. >>> joining me now is leon panetta. it's good to see you. this was a triumph of diplomacy. know our intelligence operatives were very involved, including one of the great experts in our administration, bill burns, who had been formerly an ambassador to moscow and is fluent in russian. talk about the role of the cia in figuring out who might be available in different countries that were russian operatives that could be traded, who could be -- the leaders of the countries could be asked by the president who knew the leaders, to press for -- we know you don't want to give these people up, but this is the only way we can get out our people, enlarging the deal in order to get evan and paul, not to leave him behind again. >> obviously, the cia is very familiar with putin's game. this is putin's game. it's to pick up innocent people, falsely charge them and hope you can get the price you want in some kind of exchange. i'm sure our intelligence people know where their people are located, those that they would like to have back. i'm sure that the linchpin was krasikov. whatever was

i think the speech by leon panetta on the last night really sort of epitomized the democrats trying to criticize president trump and a wave that people associated with the military would not want to vote for him. listen to what he said. >> donald trump does not understand the world. and he does not understand the service and sacrifice of our military. our fallen veterans are not suckers. they are not losers. they are our hearers. kamala harris will honor our veterans. >> john: referring to comments of the former president allegedly made about a boarded visit to the cemetery and bella would when he was in france the last time. but when you take a look at that, he does not understand the world, he doesn't understand the service and sacrifice of our military. there have been how many wars on biden and harris' watch and there were no wars on trump's watch? he tried to reach out to north korea to change the dynamic there and most people would describe him as a real friend of the american military. >> this is been a common talking point among democrats. harris surrogates were out this mornin

they're in savannah, joining us now is leon panetta.e was defense secretary and cia director under president obama, and also served as white house house chief of staff for president clinton. he has endorsed the harris walz ticket and thank you so much, sir, for being with us to talk about this. i wonder what you think undecided it had voters need to hear from harris and walz in their interview with dana bash well, i think this is a great opportunity to be able to discuss not only issues that are involved in this campaign, very important issues but also talk about the election itself. >> and how they're going to conduct the campaign to be able to win in november i think i think it helps to be transparent, particularly with with the public and with the media. and i think dana bash is probably the perfect person to ask very tough questions of both of them. it's a good thing i do agree with you on that on that about dana so harris is going to be giving this interview on the eve of what is the third anniversary of america's total withdrawal

thank you please welcome former secretary of defense leon panetta my fellow americans i'm proud to haveved in the army. the congress, the white house chief of staff cia director and secretary of defense i've looked into the eyes of our warriors and deployed them into battle i gave the order directing our special operations forces to fly two helicopters, 150 miles into abbottabad at night and by the time the sun rose osama bin laden was dead you were because because nobody attacks our country and gets away with it nobody that's that's what our warriors do. >> that's what our warriors do, our warriors need a tough, cool headed commander in chief to defend our democracy from tyrants and terrorists. >> we need kamala harris behind the resolute desk she knows she knows a tyrant when she sees one. >> and our allies know a leader when they see one on the senate intelligence committee. and as vice president she worked with more than 150 world leaders she's looked our allies in the eye and said, america has your back trump would abandon our allies and isolate america we tried that in the 1930s.

. >> i am, he highly dissipated special guest, phil mattingly in for jake tapper, a big leon panetta, energy. here we start today with the 2024, lead the balloons. mostly pop the rafters have emptied the nomination. it's been accepted and now the race for president enters a new chapter. the first ballots get mailed out in just two weeks. that's right. 14 days from today americans can start casting their votes just days later, we'll see the first debate between vice president kamala harris and former president donald trump. and widespread early voting that starts in less than a month fresh off their convention, democrats hope to build on their momentum with the harris campaign announcing the obamas, the clintons will be hitting the campaign trail to make the case for the harris-walz ticket. her team says harris will continue holding rallies, but not necessarily the same pace as the last couple of weeks she turns her focus to debate prep. this weekend, harris and walz are off the trail over the course of the last week, donald trump has been holding rallies in key battleground states inc

[cheers and applause] >> please welcome former secretary of defense leon panetta. ♪ >> my fellow americanschief of staff, cia director, and secretary of defense. [cheers and applause] i have looked into the eyes of our warriors and deploy them into battle. i gave the order directing our special operations forces to fly two helicopters 150 miles at night, and by the time the sun rose, osama bin laden was dead. [cheers and applause] [chanting "usa"] because nobody attacks our country and gets away with it. nobody. [cheers and applause] that is what our warriors do. that is what our warriors do. our warriors need a tough, coolheaded commander-in-chief to defend our democracy from tyrants and terrorists. we need kamala harris behind the resolute desk. [cheers and applause] she knkows -- knows the tyrants when she sees one, and our allies know a leader when they see one. on the senate intelligence committee and as vice president she worked with more than 150 world leaders. she has looked our allies in the eyes and said america has your back. trump would abandon our allies and isolate america. w

. >> david: former secretary of defense leon panetta continuing the conversation on this. >> i'm proudof our warriors and deployed them into battle. i gave the order directing our special operations forces to fly two helicopters 150 miles into abbottabad at night, and by the time the sun rose, laden was dead. [ applause ] because, because nobody attacks our country and gets away with it. nobody. that's what our warriors do. that's what our warriors do. our warriors need a tough, cool-headed commander in chief to defend our democracy from tyrants and terrorists. we need kamala harris behind the resolute desk. [ cheers and applause ] she knows, she knows the tyrant when she sees one, and our allies know a leader when they see one. on the senate intelligence committee and as vice president, she worked with more than 150 world leaders. she's looked our allies in the eye, and said, america has your back. trump would abandon our allies and isolate america. we tried that in the 1930s. it was foolish and dangerous then, and it's foolish and dangerous now. [ cheers and applause ] listen to pres

so will leon panetta, the former cia director. there's a real emphasis on america's place in the world, maintaining america's place in the national stage, and also supporting the military, supporting veterans, saying this is a national security issue to not have former president trump come back in office. i have also been talking to people about how vice president harris sees this moment. she really sees this as important to lay out policy and to lay out the things she's going to do, but she also sees this as a moment for people to say, we are the decent people here. you can elect us, even if you're a republican and don't want to become a democrat, you can trust we're going to be decent people. we're going to be joyful people. we're going to make sure all americans are impacted and really supported here. part of that is going to be her talking about the fact that america is great when the middle school is great. and leaning on the fact that she know what is it means to struggle as someone who worked at mcdonald's and had a mother

remember leon panetta said with the strike of the pen be the law of the land, or whatever? that is what they are doing. when we've got higher prices every time we go to the grocery store, when we've got gangs who are recruiting kids younger and younger in our schools and across the country, a border that is not secure, so we are seeing fentanyl and human trafficking gangs coming across the border, what is the biden-harris administration focusing on? making sure biological males can compete in women's sports. that is what happen when they get to do this. you mentioned energy. i did not even get a chance with the governor about nuclear energy. you've got the environmentalists using the biden-harris administration coming into our states and just wrecking economic policy. how do u.s. and attorney general and the other attorney general in the country balance out your roles as a law-enforcement officer, a legal representative for the state, while also working with the other entities that are effected, whether it is the private sector or public sector? att. gen. carr: i say it is

take a listen to leon panetta, and we'll talk about it on the other side. >> kamala harris understands and she understands what our military is for. the role of our military is to defend us from foreign enemies. it is not to threaten americans. and it sure as hell isn't to put immigrants in camps. [ cheers and applause ] >> congresswoman, i want you to do the side by side for me as you see it, which is if you take h.r. mcmaster at his word you have a former president who was impressionable, prone to flattery, under the grip of a russian dictator, and you have kamala harris, who wants to restore the global order. how do you make that argument to voters in this final stretch before the election? >> so i think what we saw at the convention was a really strong advocacy for the u.s. and our power abroad, meaning more ability to take care of people here at home. the better ability to fight for our economy globally will result in better jobs and affordability here at home. and it's interesting because somebody said to me at the convention, you know, it's interesting, she's really pushing back

i believe that i heard leon panetta say yesterday, maybe i am wrong, you could tell me if i'm right orsrael is now part of the u.s. central command. is that correct? what would that mean? does that mean u.s. soldiers, not just equipment, would have to go and fight if israel goes to war with iran, hezbollah, or lebanon? guest: no, that is not what it means. thank you for the question. the u.s. military organizes the globe into different commands, different areas of operation. the middle east area of operation is called central command, because it is not eastern asia or western europe. for many years israel was part of the european command. the arab countries were part of the central command. a number of years ago, not this year, israel as an area of operation was moved to central command, which involves saudi arabia, egypt, and many other countries in the region. it is a technical military management issue. it has no bearing on whether the u.s. goes to war with israel were not. it's just an organizational issue for the u.s. military. the u.s. engagement, alongside israel, is really rela

i believe that i heard leon panetta say yesterday, maybe i am wrong, you could tell me if i'm right orl is now part of the u.s. central command. is that correct? what would that mean? does that mean u.s. soldiers, not just equipment, would have to go and fight if israel goes to war with iran, hezbollah, or lebanon? guest: no, that is not what it means. thank you for the question. the u.s. military organizes the globe into different commands, different areas of operation. the middle east area of operation is called central command, because it is not eastern asia or western europe. for many years israel was part of the european command. the arab countries were part of the central command. a number of years ago, not this year, israel as an area of operation was moved to central command, which involves saudi arabia, egypt, and many other countries in the region. it is a technical military management issue. it has no bearing on whether the u.s. goes to war with israel were not. it's just an organizational issue for the u.s. military. the u.s. engagement, alongside israel, is really related

. >> please welcome former secretary of defense, leon panetta . >> my fellow americans, i'm proud toetary of defense. i have looked into the eyes of our warriors and deployed them into battle . i gave the order directing our special operations forces to fly two helicopters , 150 miles at night, and by the time the sun rose, osama bin laden was dead. because nobody attacks our country and gets away with it. nobody. [ cheers and applause ] that is what our warriors do. our warriors need a tough, coolheaded commander in chief to defend our democracy from tyrants and terrorists . we need kamala harris behind the resolute desk . she knows a tyrant when she sees one and, our allies know a leader when they see one. on the senate intelligence committee and as vice president, she worked with more than 150 world leaders . she has looked our allies in the eyes and said, america has your back . trump would abandon our allies and isolate america . we tried that in the 1930s. it was foolish and dangerous then and it is foolish and dangerous now . [ cheers and applause ] listen to president reagan.

[cheers and applause] >> please welcome former secretary of defense leon panetta. ♪ >> my fellow americansarriors and deploy them into battle. i gave the order directing our special operations forces to fly two helicopters 150 miles at night, and by the time the sun rose, osama bin laden was dead. [cheers and applause] [chanting "usa"] because nobody attacks our country and gets away with it. nobody. [cheers and applause] that is what our warriors do. that is what our warriors do. our warriors need a tough, coolheaded commander-in-chief to defend our democracy from tyrants and terrorists. we need kamala harris behind the resolute desk. [cheers and applause] she knkows -- knows the tyrants when she sees one, and our allies know a leader when they see one. on the senate intelligence committee and as vice president she worked with more than 150 world leaders. she has looked our allies in the eyes and said america has your back. trump would abandon our allies and isolate america. we tried that in the 1930's. it was foolish and dangerous and then, and it is foolish and dangerous now. [cheers an

political parties are really changing because if you listen to some of the speeches early on, leon panettafor example, talking about a very muscular foreign policy, talking about continued support of ukraine, mark kelly doing the senator from arizona doing the same thing, the republicans are becoming more and more less interventionist and the democrats are becoming more and more interventionist overseas. it's one thing, though, about mike dukakis, which is interesting because the caucus was ahead by 17 points in the summer of 1988, and he ended up losing 40 states at the end of the election by november. republicans are very good at going after him. so i think that you really have to look at you really got to look at that for anyone who thinks he's ahead, that she can go, that she can fall pretty fast. and in terms of politics, enjoy that worked for hubert humphrey, tried the same thing in 1968 and i'm pleased as punch the politics of joy. but it didn't quite work out for him because of vietnam and the race riots at the time. >> some great points, great discussion there. rich, julian, tom,