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leonard bernstein with russian roots, by the way, or isaac stern, another great american who spoke russianwe spoke a lot about the grandparents and so on. lenny did travel with his orchestra. charlie: the new york philharmonic. valery: he traveled to other orchestras as well. isaac stern was there to defend the very existence, the very life of carnegie hall. i know he was there as well to give his tremendous support but there were many others, i'm sure. charlie: they were all there. valery: there would be no carnegie hall without them. there was a moment in the history of carnegie hall when there was someone who could make a decision that carnegie hall should go down in there would eat something built, hotel, shops, whatever. one of the symbol of the american musical world. yes, you need leaders. i don't know if i was born as what you say, world leader, but i was born in the right place, the right time. look, there were great conduct or zero. he had a great orchestra in leningrad. i understand the sound of an orchestra. there were very few like the philharmonic ever. yes, there was a fanta

it would be too much to say a close friend of leonard bernstein, with russian roots, by the way or isaac stern, another great american who is very strong russian roots who spoke russian. leonard did to the but we spoke a lot about their great grandparents and so on. i repeat lenny by the way he did travel with his orchestra. >> rose: the new york philharmonic. >> correct. and de travel to other orchestras as well. len' famously was to conduct when the berlin wall went down. so did-- played his famous cello. >> rose: it was in washington. >> of course. and eye ago stern was there to defend carnegie hall the very existence the very life of carnegie hall. although i know jim wolfensohn was there as well to give his tremendous support and these two gentlemen, there were many others i'm sure. >> rose: they were all there for the fall of the -- >> because there would be no carnegie hall any more. there was a moment in history of carnegie hall when there was someone who could mick a decision, that carnegie hall should go down. and there would be something built, hotel shops whatever. it is one