i was writing in my notebook and i just wrote down these leonard cohen lyrics.s was the day before may 1. that scene of this kind of bearded scholars writing down leonard cohen note in a meeting just seemed like a pretty good -- it stayed with me, so then i chose thohose lyrics. nermeen: that scholar was earning ruben -- was barney rubin. earlier you were talking about why it is so important that afghanistan -- the country's running afghanistan are crucial to any kind of settlement. and one of the key things in your book, after all, taken from the title, taken from a brananch with an inter-services intelligence, the intelligence service of pakistan. it has long been clear to the americans that pakistan is absolutely central to any resolution of the conflict in multiple american ministrations, admdministration, obama ministrations, and reasonably the trumump administration. but in 2008 to go back to the bush administration early on, the bush administration signed a nuclear agreement with india, the historic enemy of pakistan. given the fact the americans were awa