let's get more on this with leonardo moura. people for the socio—environmental institute, which is a brazilian ngo. leonardo, great to have you with us. how was the pandemic affecting indigenous communities? hello. so the indigenous group here in brazil, we have many ethnicities, and many were recently contacted and they we re very recently contacted and they were very low numbers, some with hundreds, 200 people, the big most populous, 2000, 3000. so they have their culture tested by verbal ways. so the others are dying so it is very big for the culture —— elders. you talk about the elders dying. we know in recent days a chief died. explained to us how important he was. he was one of the main leaders of this reserve. this indigenous reserve. this indigenous reserve was one of the first indigenous lands that were made in brazil and he was one of the main leaders. of great importance. what can indigenous communities do to protect themselves? so it's difficult. as they don't have appropriate policies. usually here in amazonia they