that i told you. no longer on the air, he told that in 2004, the current president of ukraine, leonid kuchma to be persuaded to move to one of the eastern regional centers or kharkiv or donetsk in order to allegedly hold a congress, not a congress, of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, a session of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, to print an issue of the government courier newspaper in one of the printing houses of kharkiv or donetsk, to hold the inauguration of the new president of ukraine, viktor yanukovych, it was russia. a proposal that was made at a very high level, and leonid kuchma, according to my sources, categorically disagreed with this proposal and said that the president of ukraine should be in kyiv. well, you just have to understand that leonid kuchma differed from viktor yanukovych in his precise understanding of the nature of power. it was simple for him, you know, that's the kind of thing you can't learn. leonid kuchma had it, it is possible, it is possible, it was possible not to notice that he has it, although something is not to be noticed. we noticed it, no matter how he was

and leonid kuchma, according to my sources, categorically disagreed with this proposal and said thatresident of ukraine should be in kyiv. well, you just have to understand that leonid kuchma differed from viktor yanukovych in his precise understanding of the nature of power. he just had it, you know, it's the kind of thing you can't learn. at leonid kuchma's it was, it might be possible not to notice that he has it, although it is not noticeable somewhere. we all noticed it. ot. who would treat him anyway? some had a positive attitude, some had a negative attitude, and the fact that this politician is aware of what power is, was clear from the first months, literally there of his tenure as the head of the ukrainian state. and that is why this scenario did not go the way it did when yanukovych fled from kyiv, uh, but we see that they were preparing for the same thing, for the same paradigm, and i think that if they had it worked out, then it would have gone exactly as it did with yanukovych, there would have been no tobsey of the verkhovna rada, chaos began, it was unclear where the

proposal and said that the president ukraine should be in kyiv, well, it should be simple... that leonid kuchmafered from viktor yanukovych in his precise understanding of the nature of power, it was simple for him, you know, this is something that cannot be learned from leonid kuchba it was, it may be possible, it was possible not to notice that he had it, although it was impossible to notice somewhere, we all noticed it, but no matter how one treated him, someone treated him positively, someone treated him negatively, but what this politician is aware of what power is, it was clear from the first months of his tenure as ukrainian leader. of the state, and that is why this scenario did not go the way it did when yanukovych fled from kyiv, ugh, but we see that they were preparing for the same thing, for this same paradigm, and i think that if them it worked out, then it would have gone exactly as it did with yanukovych, there would have been no session of the verkhovna rada, it would have started in chaos, it is not clear where the legitimate government is, what part of the territory already is

for example, leonid kuchma after the orange revolution overstayed his presidential term, however, for several months. and nothing so extraordinary happened in this. that is, it is normal, in principle, it was perceived by the society of that time, nothing critical. did not happen next, a strong step would be, in my opinion, the dissolution of the coalition that currently exists, the monomajority, because the servant of the people faction is constantly pushing for the creation of a new coalition and the creation of a government of national unity of this coalition. i emphasize that i do not consider it necessary that the representatives. those whom are called, considered to be the opposition, must have been part of this government, it is possible to form a technical government that will simply help to return from the currently existing office-presidential to a parliamentary-presidential republic, as provided for by the constitution. the war does not stop the operation of the constitution and legislation, and this can also be understood. and our personnel policy at the moment is like a g

president does not necessarily stay in power for 5 years, for example, after the orange revolution, leonid kuchmatayed his presidential term, however, for a few months, and nothing of the sort happened extraordinary, that is, it was generally perceived as normal by the society of that time, nothing critical.

presidents quite closely and you saw where they were wrong and where they mistakes were made, because leonid kuchmas mistakes, viktor yushchenko had his mistakes , what has happened now and what they believe that they have changed all the military leaders, and that there is no good person with a high rating. trust, it is not a fact that he will not multiply this rating of public trust after that, and we still need to conduct sociology, look again at zelenskyi’s trust rating and at zaluzhnyi’s trust rating, is this not now a strategic mistake by zelenskyi, before he will speak that he will go for a second term because the first term is coming to an end. believe me, mr. serhiy, i absolutely do not care, what kind of field. what will be the fate of zelensky or zaluzhnyi, i will now talk about ukraine, it is important to me that whoever is there, zelensky, yushchenko, poroshenko, kuchma, that these foolish things are not done, well , it is impossible to train personnel in the state at such a price, no you can, because it means we first apply the colossal ones. to prepare people, and then where do we se

because during pre-election rhetoric you can say anything, anything, as, for example, once in 1994, leonid kuchma would be a second russian the second state that we will almost integrate there.

situation, the only person we had longer than the term of 5 years, after the election, it was leonid kuchmaaidanovych, but it was a very short period, and no one was interested in it, from the point of view that the new president was just taking office, and the previous president did not need to do anything, he it was necessary to simply be in office, here the president will need to actively manage the state, it is not defined. time, so the president may be afraid, i don't know to what extent, again, i'm not a lawyer, that he won't have any powers, that is, that his powers will be in this situation comply with the powers of the acting president of ukraine, well, that is , it is impossible to dismiss certain officials, it is impossible to appoint certain officials.

are quite close, and you saw what they were wrong about and where they made mistakes, because leonid kuchmayushchenko had his mistakes, what happened now and what they think they changed all the military leaders, and that there is no hard-working person nearby who has a high trust rating not in... the fact that he will not multiply this rating of popular trust after that, and we still need to conduct sociology, look again at zelenskyi’s trust rating and at the rating trust dear, isn't this a strategic mistake of zelenskyy now before he says that he will go for a second term, because the first term is coming to an end, and believe me, mr. serhiy, i don't care what the political... fate will be zelenskyi or zaluzhnyi, i am now talking about ukraine, it is important to me that whoever is there, zelenskyi, yushchenko, poroshenko, kuchma, that these foolish things are not done, well, it is not possible to train personnel in the state at such a price, it is not possible, therefore which means that we first make a colossal effort to get people to... cook, a then where will we send them, for whom a

pre-election rhetoric you can say anything, anything, as, for example, once in... in in 1994, leonid kuchma said that the second russian will be the second state, that we we will almost integrate with russia there, that is, there will be economic ties, political ties, then it all changed very quickly, only kuchma came to the presidential office, the united states of america has a whole system that will definitely not allow trump to do what he wants, and even more so there are international obligations within the framework. of the north atlantic alliance, mr. oleg, this is such a sharp reaction of the leaders of the western countries to trump's statements, what does it show that you can expect anything from trump? mr. bolton said that trump's words should be taken seriously. and here at once there are several sections in which it can be commented. first of all, trump and now, for example, if american institutions were really as strong as they seem. strong and how, as they manifested themselves before, even now trump would not be able to block the decision-making in the congress, because his

situation, the only person with us who had a term longer than 5 years, after the election, was leonid kuchma in connection with the maidan, but it was a very short period and no one was interested in this, from the point of view that the new president was just taking office, and the previous president did not need to do anything, he just needed to be in office, here the president. it will be necessary to actively manage the state for an indefinite period of time, which means that the president may be afraid, i don't know how much it is again after all, i am not a lawyer, that he will not have any powers, that is, that his powers in this situation will correspond to the powers of the acting president of ukraine, that is, it is the impossibility of dismissing certain officials, the impossibility of appointing certain officials to their positions, but only those performing duties. this is the impossibility of even submitting a candidacy for the prime minister, if you remember, we had a period when we had an acting president, oleksandr turchynov, and during this period, let's say, there is a hea

situation. the only person with us who had a term longer than 5 years, after the election, was leonid kuchma with maidanovich, but it was a very short period, and no one was interested in it from the point of view that he was simply stepping in the position of the new president, and the previous president does not need anything had to do, he just needed to be in office, here the president will have to actively manage the state for an indefinite period of time, which means... he may be afraid, i don’t know how much it is again, i am not a lawyer, that he will not have any powers, that is that his powers in this situation will correspond to the powers of the acting president of ukraine. uhu, well, that is, it is the impossibility of dismissing certain officials, the impossibility of appointing certain officials to their positions, but only acting duties, it is not an opportunity to even submit a candidacy. minister, if you remember, we had a period when we had the acting president, oleksandr turchynov, and during this period, let's say, the head of government, the minister of foreign affairs,

for the most interesting discussion and say this: in in his famous book, ukraine is not russia, leonid kuchmaentourage remained hostages to the very end of marxist postulates about the supremacy of the economic class over the national. and one can say it differently: the caretakers of platinum underestimated the power of water "probably former president." ukraine is right, but what are the consequences of the supremacy of nationalism over economic logic for the interests of ordinary people in ukraine, a destroyed country and an impoverished population. and fortunately for... economy in eastern europe.

law, but in our country they would have spat on it and crushed it, well, by the way, when leonid danilovich kuchmamething to us that he wanted yanukovych, well , what you want, these are different worlds, as if close, but so different, look, mr. vitaly, while ukraine is waiting and also looking for something with which we can oppose the russian federation, and with which we can shoot at it, we have a situation where the head of the association of defense enterprises, ex-nard serhiy pashin. in fact, he is under investigation for the case as early as 2014-14, yes, in the 14th year, we are talking about the confiscation of fuel for the benefit of the state, in particular, for which we discussed, it seems to me, 10 years ago in this studio, yes, yes, and in the end , according to pashinsky himself, at the end in the summer of 2023, the russian federation organized a special operation to block the supply of ammunition to ukraine, and we understand that it was written about in one way or another, in the foreign press, by the way, now we can, when we talk about pashinsky's role is to finally cite the new

, the tsar 's will, the law, and we also spat on the roster, well, how, by the way, when leonid danilovich kuchmalike that to us, that he wants yanukovych, well, take your pick, these are different worlds, as if close, but so different, look, mr. vitaly, while ukraine is waiting and also searching for what we can use to oppose the russian federation and what to shoot at it, it has. .. the situation when the head of the association of defense enterprises, ex-nard serhii pashynskyi, actually finds himself under investigation for the case as far back as 2014, the 14th, yes , the 14th year, we are talking about the confiscation of fuel for the benefit of the state, in particular there for the armed forces ukraine, the matter that we discussed, it seems to me 10 years ago, yes, that's right, and in the end, according to pashinsky himself, at the end of the summer of 2023 , the russian federation organized a special operation... blocking the supply of ammunition to ukraine, and we understand that one way or another, it was written about in the foreign press, by the way, now we can, when we talk about t

royal will, the law, they spat at us and crushed it, well , how, by the way, it was when we leonid danilovich kuchmae wanted." well, you want to, these are different worlds, as if close, but so different, look, mr. vitaly, while ukraine is waiting and also looking for something with which we can oppose the russian federation and what to shoot at her, we have a situation when the head of the association of defense enterprises, exnardep serhiy pashynskyi, actually finds himself under investigation for the case as far back as 2014, yes, in the 14th year, we are talking about the confiscation of fuel for the benefit of the state, in particular there for the armed forces of ukraine, this is an old case , which, which we discussed, it seems to me, 10 years ago, that’s right, and in the end, according to pashinsky himself, at the end of the summer of 2023 , the russian federation organized a special operation to block the supply of ammunition to ukraine, and we understand that one way or another, about it wrote, by the way, in the foreign press, the new york times, now, when we talk about the role of pashi

forces to the territory of ukraine, and the verkhovna rada adopted the law on freedom , president leonid kuchmane, i would like to emphasize once again that very good, friendly and constructive relations have developed between ukraine and the north atlantic alliance. however, a month later he changed his the decision and wording was replaced with a softer one. it was no longer a question of joining the alliance, but only of in-depth cooperation. but in april 2005 the first maidan broke out. the orange revolution brought viktor yushchenko to power. ukraine again rushed to nato, hoping to become a full member of the alliance. a split in nato over ukraine occurred in 2008. then france and germany opposed ukraine. the united states lobbied for the rapid accession of ukraine. russia was categorically not happy with this state of affairs. what about is this happening in ukraine? according to the information i have, the overwhelming majority of ukrainian citizens are against joining nato. however, the leadership, the leadership of ukraine. the situation changed in february 2010, when president viktor