lerner said. people feel comfortable raising disclosures whether to members of the committee or -- rep. coffman: i think they are willing to take a risk. ms. lerner: i would agree with that. the whistleblowers left come forward today to provide their stories, it is an act of cour age. something we need to celebrate because disclosures about problems give us an opportunity to fix them. if we do not learn about them we're not able to improve. to ms. lerner's point, we do need to to understand what it is that is driving these numbers continuing to drive these numbers and be able careful not to assume good or bad things about the numbers. the fact people are coming forward with a concert is an indicator -- with concerns is an indicator. the fact that they are bringing them forward it means we have the opportunity to identify the problems. rep. coffman: can you comment give me some idea, we had testimony from the witnesses here that are whistleblowers that in no disciplinary action has been taken a gue

lerner's written testimony. they're all types of cases specific cases are the people involved do you get involved in the discipline of the person who did the retaliating against the whistleblower a you are mainly concerned that the whistleblower is restored, is that correct? ms. lerner: it is a relief for the whistleblower. rep. benishek: do you report to ms. flanz's department? ms. lerner: we are working to expedite the identification of cases where it is appropriate. i want to mention we know all 40 disciplinary actions against employees who were complicit in their wrongdoing identified by whistleblowers. on the disclosure side where people can't toss and make the disclosure of health and safety problems, it is part of our review on the agency and we look at what there taken disciplinary actions. on that par we know of at least $.40 -- 40. rep. benishek: you are only aware of three cases. three cases of disciplinary action being taken amongst the case. it seems surprising especially in view of dr. head was her

lerner. dr. head, you are now recognized for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. coffman, miss kuster, and other members for inviting me again to a very important meeting. since my last testimony july of 2014 when i returned back to west l.a. va hospital in my position as associate director my leadership, my direct leader was essentially resigned. i basically was assigned to a chief of staff outside los angeles, to long beach hospital, who i'd never met and still have never met. i started to notice my patients were being reassigned mid-therapy to other surgeons. when i questioned this, senior leadership at my hospital, essentially the chief of staff said "if you don't like it you're a whistleblower, take it to congress. there's nothing they can do to me." i reported this statement to congress and also the office of special counsel. following that i was presented i was prevented from going in the operating room when i had a patient under anesthesia. i was told my credentials to go in the operating

you mention lois lerner. we saw that con -- done in a systematic way. suspicious at the very least. the problem is i think a lot of democrats are seeing what a lot of republicans have seen coming out of this white house which is an in-your-face targeting of anybody who might get in the wait of any agenda. with iran this is a life and death situation not just for our ally israel, but for the united states and the west as well. patti ann: the charges are serious. they say his eye doctor give him 17 flight on his jet. stayed at exclusive hotels and resorts at menendez's request and the indictment says menendez intervened on a port security contract and helped get visas for the doctor's girlfriends. >> there was a substantial and preexisting relationship between dr. melgen and senator necessity then dezz. in that case the gifts are part of a preexisting relationship. but it is a challenge for senator menendez because he didn't report the gift he got. that's a requirement. patti ann: monica, i know you are going to say not really that minor. >> both things c

philip, great day if you are lois lerner? >> yeah. think that the scale of this day being a good day is less than the day when all of this is totally gone. i mean, this is a very particular legal issue about the extent to which she said things before she invoked her fifth amendment right. and whether or not she, therefore, gave up her fifth amendment right. so it's either a subset of a subset of a subset of this broader issue. she is not out of the woods yet as long as republicans keep pressing on this. >> i think a lot of people are going to say that the decision by the u.s. attorney and the district of colombia who made the decision for the justice department: allen dershowitz of harvard law school who said that she definitely weighed her fifth amendment right. there are a lot of people who said she did. so i think that. i think it's part of a broader property. she is so far skating on this. this whole thing started this. all right. go on you have paid leave. you get to stay home. collect your check but stay home and watch tv and th

lerner.dr. head you are now recognized for five minutes. can. >> thank you mr. coffman miss kuster, and other members for inviting me again to a very important meeting. since my last testimony july of 2014 when i returned back to west l.a. va hospital in my position as associate director my leadership my direct leader was essentially resigned. i basically was assigned to a chief of staff outside los angeles, to long beach hospital, who i'd never met and still have never met. i started to notice my patients were being reassigned mid-therapy to other surgeons. when i questioned this, senior leadership at my hospital, essentially the chief of staff said "if you don't like it you're a whistleblower, take it to congress. there's nothing they can do to me." i reported this statement to congress and also the office of special counsel. following that i was presented from going in the operating room when i had i patient under anesthesia. i was told my credentials to go in the operating room had been r

>> taxed to the max the white house sent the irs on the attack grover norquist said without lois lerner barack obama would not be president. new details you hear on national tv, but first top story earnings season is off and running, we're getting signs that the economy is stalling, i am david asman in for neil cavuto glad you could join us. kooteninchela deppi gearing up -- wall street is gearing up for what is considered to be worse season in years. and trimming earning outlook. the first year of negative growth since 2000 2009. companies face an earnings recession, an economic recession followed, mike and susan are watching this economy. mike, are we in danger? >> i think we are. looking at the last jobs report it was terrible with a record low number of people participating in the labor market, that that is a bad sign. and the first 2 quarters of this year, i am looking for earnings of the s&p -- this does not bode well. >> mike might be right. we came back after this bad first quarter uk the same might happen here? >> it could, i am not really negative saying we'll go to a full-fle

all right, lois lerner, i'm surprised that lois lerner is not going to be held accountable by anyonethis. why not? >> well congress voted to hold her in contempt. that requires a federal prosecutor to go to court and prosecute her for contempt. they have declined to do so. >> why? >> well, the reason why is because they probably want to protect her political bullying and use of irs agents to torment conservative political action groups. >> now you're accusing the justice department of corruption. >> i am. >> you just did. >> i am. yeah. i stand on that. >> how you can stand on it though -- an opinion is one thing. >> yeah. >> do you have any facts to back up the justice department and attorney general holder is corrupt? >> the facts are that the case against her is a very strong one, but if it is prosecuted, her true behavior and the behavior of the irs under the obama administration may become known. she alleges that she took the fifth amendment, which is a privilege all of us have not to testify. but at the time she took the fifth amendment she also made denials. when you make a de

tremaine i heard you testify earlier that you have been in contact with miss lerner's department. is there anybody else you've been talking to? >> no, sir. other than the aib after about six -- i want to say 12 13 hours of grilling over two days -- i'm sorry, over three days. >> they were talking to you? >> they were -- they weren't talking, they were grilling. >> what do you mean grilling? what were they doing in. >> they were investigating me. you know i thought -- i told them, i clearly thought it was a sham. and i expressed that to them on multiple occasions during the investigation. i mean one of the most interesting questions -- the question they wanted asked or answered the most dealt with the fact i identified a vehicle driving -- a government vehicle driving at friday night at 8:30 in the evening after i left the office at 8:30 didn't have any taillights on it at all. i stopped that vehicle and notified the driver there weren't any taillights on before the driver got on a darkened highway. and then the next monday i inquired about what the vehicle was doing out at 8:30, b

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lois lerner.thing wrong with this picture? >> i think what's really wrong is that the timing of the indictment was almost the day that the iranian deal was signed. bob menendez was the ranking member on the foreign relations committee. he's had to give up his post. and to get congressional oversight, there needs to be 67 votes in the senate. and candidly with lois lerner having not been prosecuted and men then december prosecuted candidly, i think we're going to see the effort to get congressional review fall short. i hope i'm wrong. i hope there is review. but i think this really sends a message to the entire congress. >> let's talk about the indictment. 68 pages long. it statesmen then december had three girlfriends took nearly $1 million in trips, at a preference conference on wednesday the senator vehemently denied all of this. he asserted his innocence. listen to senator corker on whether the menendez indictment is politically motivated. all right, we don't have it. let's kill that. let me ju

what bothers me about the irs corruption is not just lois lerner. she is a political hack appointee by obama. there will no who isle blowers. no whistle-blowers. we now know that in the irs people are still using their own gmail account. your data could be on somebody's gmail account. this is hillary clinton at the irs, hundreds, maybe thousands of people, sloppy with your data and mine and the american people's. we know they shared some conservative donor lists with opposition groups in order to attack them and bother them. and threaten them. that is a real threat. the fact that had -- i'd be much happier if lois lerner said we're going to do this and somebody said, i'm calling the "new york times." butow quite right that the irs culture is such and much of the government's culture, is that they're friends of government. not friends of the people. they sea themselves as loyal to the state rather than the nation and they serve the interests of the state which is bigger government. >> host: now, i sometimes get the sense that you would like to change

another e-mail shows that as far back as every 2013 lois lerner new that the targeting of conservative groups was going to raise congressional questions. saying that they seem to not be able to understand the difference in a politically motivated manner, and frontline staff people using less than stellar judgment. i'm willing to take the blame for not having provided sufficient direction initially. lois lerner has taken no blame and has avoided any real punishment the obama justice department refusing to bring charges against her for her refusal to testify before congress. we are coming right back, so stay with us. >> local authorities, the mayor and the police keep doing exactly everything right in the south carolina shooting of a non-armed lack man. but that has not stopped protests for a single minute. david clark is here with us next. and violent clashes in panama between castro supporters, just ahead of a meeting between president obama and lou: breaking news, the south carolina law enforcement division releasing the police dash camera video taken before the fatal shooting of a wa

and lois lerner gave a speech on my birthday october 19, 2010, just before. and she said they are all telling me i have to do something. so, people are looking for the e-mail. you don't need the e-mail. she said out loud you could see it in the letters that were sent and in the president's comments that there was something wrong that needs to be stopped and her comment was the need me to do something. we really need to make some decisions. this is crazy. the general shouldn't talk about that. they harassed people that were trying to set up the associations we could have the group. they didn't have the growth of the it party groups believe that we did in 1978 and 89 or 80. the groups to this day that were formed had bank accounts and an office and the major players in massachusetts, california and other states. obama and lois lerner succeeded on the tea party movement so that it couldn't replicate and 12 and had the day it might have turned out different if there had been an upsurge of republican votes. >> host: key was up by a 1 million obama was down 3 milli

thousands of e-mails involving retired bureaucrat lois lerner have been discovered. >> reporter: 6500-mails in all are being turned over to house and senate committees this week. they are a subset minus duplicates of an unexpected trove of 32,000 lerner e-mails found at the back-up facility in mar mar martinsburg. >> after it was dysfunctional and with experts, no e-mails could be retrieved was recycled in the normal process. >> he said i can assure you, the backup tapes don't exist and then two weeks later he gets in a car, grabs the backup tapes and finds the e-mails and now we have 6500 e-mails from the pertinent and critical time frame. >> reporter: the irs said it welcomed the new discovery, an encouraging development that will help resolve remaining questions. and the wanes and means committee said this underscores that our investigation into irs abuse is far from over. on april 9th under court order, the irs gave judicial watch several lerner e-mails coordinating messages to the employees. that means we will need to start drafting our arguments. the treasury inspector general i

he won't even prosecute lois lerner. it's the limitations of the legislative branch.want is access to the information and the documents. i don't want the legal drama. if i can be uncharacteristically courteous and give her an extra two weeks and get what i want, i'd rather did that than go through the drama with a floor fight. because i know with fast and fuhr qulus and the irs and these other investigations, we wind up in court and three years before a judge decides to give us an answer. and people have lost interest and their attention has moved on to something else. i want the information. i do not want the theatrics and the drama. >> let me just say that there are a couple of people very important there. you have huma abedin. and you have him saying not to talk to chaffetz. my fear is that scooby-doo and the scooby-doo van are going to take over what should be a very important issue for the american people to understand. >> and i'll tell you, judge, that i think the american people are fully engaged because they have really high expectations of their public offici

day at the obama justice department - - department and is dropping the content case against low was lerner and the irs but they did indict senator mendez on corruption charges breach take up the politics regarding both decisions. beginning with the extension of the nuclear talks for ago the secretary kerry remained behind and the iran for minister warns this may be the last opportunity for a nuclear deal. >> with the opportunity to engage with those negotiating partners to seize the moment. lou: joining as that of former ambassador to the united nations bill richardson and also former governor of new mexico and has to listen to the iranian foreign minister and then as the deal and is effective negotiating ? >> this is what happens with negotiations. you get to the and trying to get the other side to blink. i am pleased the illustration and the european countries are resisting to the non-negotiable demands for ago they want the sanctions lifted right away. that is crazy. second, to change access but with nuclear fuel to build a bomb. but then not have access. another point the french foreig

i have a question about the lois lerner thing. i have a question for you about the irs thing with lois lerner. is that not -- host: is that not what? caller: is that not still in court? host: why is this an issue that you are concerned with? caller: well, and they are criticizing eric holder for not investigating. but then, about five months later, all the e-mails magically show up. and then you did not hear anything from congress or the senate. what i am wondering is do they still have to investigate those e-mails in order to prosecute lois lerner if she did anything wrong? i think that eric holder did a really good job. if you notice what happened in ferguson, when the police game to interview witnesses, they played -- they pretty much closed their doors. when the fbi got there, they pretty much open their doors. because they trusted eric holder. even though he could not get a conviction. they trusted eric holder. and i trust him. host: sarah in new york. this is rafiq in texas. hello. caller: good morning. i am on the fence wit

remember the missing emails we were told were lost from will was lerner? they have been found. by doug. you've been staring at that for awhile, huh? listen, td ameritrade has former floor traders to help walk you through that complex trade. so you'll be confident enough to do what you want. i'll pull up their number. blammo. let's get those guys on the horn. oooo looks like it is time to upgrade your phone, douglass. for all the confidence you need. td ameritrade. you got this. lou: we will go to the author of "clinton cash" common peter schweizer is with us but right now breaking news pictures of several hundred protesters and demonstrators in union square. they are they're protesting the death of freddie gray. police have already arrested a number of them pushing police officers. there has been some scuffling but nothing that appears to be anything egregious as what we have seen by demonstrators turned to writers -- rioting but they are expressing solidarity with those that have been instrumental to create that chaos to bring it to new york city. doing so with only limited su

miss lerner mentioned the travel by secretary and other top v.a. leaders. and this would be a question for miss flanz. visiting with whistleblowers, has the current secretary visited the l.a. facility where dr. head works? >> yes he has. >> did he meet with dr. head at that time? >> i honestly don't know. dr. head would know. >> okay. mr. head. >> yes. i was prevented from meeting with the secretary. i was told that my i.d. badge -- that there was a problem with my badge. i went to human resources. >> say that again? something wrong with your badge? >> i was told you have to have an updated cord on your badge that mine had expired and that i would not be allowed to see the secretary, and so -- >> did that expire when you were before the congressional committee, by any chance? >> there's a possibility it could have expired. >> i appreciate it. i want to go back to miss flanz. >> i was instructed to get that taken care of. i went to human resources. when i was in human resources trying to resolve the issue, which was resolved. they instructed me a block was p

that's roughly a year after lois lerner's hard drive crashed. these new learner e-mails were discovered with the treasury inspector general's office and handed over to the finance committee just last night. the discovery coming just a little after a month after the i.g.'s office turned over some 3200 e-mails that were thought to be gone in that hard drive crash. and costaman testified. here's what he said. >> the actual hard drive after it was determined dysfunctional no e-mails could be re-created in the normal process. >> the house ways and means committee will review the e-mails and quote, and discover this underscores that the far from investigation into irs abuse is far from over. and will help resolve remaining questions and dispel you certainty around the e-mails. of the state department is expected to release a report on the missing e-mails. the i.g. said back in february it was also investigating, quote, potential criminal activity. >> wow, 6,400 e-mails. doug thanks. >>> moments from now, baltimore police getting set to hold that polic

miss lerner mentioned the travel by secretary and other top v.a. leaders. and this would be a question for miss flanz. visiting with whistleblowers, has the current secretary visited the l.a. facility where dr. head works? >> yes, he has. >> did he meet with dr. head at that time? >> i honestly don't know. dr. head would know. >> okay. mr. head. >> yes. i was prevented from meeting with the secretary. i was told that my i.d. badge -- that there was a problem with my badge. i went to human resources. >> say that again? something wrong with your badge? >> i was told you have to have an updated cord on your badge, that mine had expired, and that i would not be allowed to see the secretary, and so -- >> did that expire when you were before the congressional committee, by any chance? >> there's a possibility it could have expired. >> i appreciate it. i want to go back to miss flanz. >> i was instructed to get that taken care of. i went to human resources. when i was in human resources trying to resolve the issue, which was resolved they instructed me a block was

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now, earlier this morning, we talked with nationals owner mark lerner about whether he thought this was the year for the nationals. >> i never make that prediction. again, i just -- i want us to stay healthy, to make the playoff, and that's a whole new season. you never know what's going to happen. we've all experienced it over the last few years, but the number one on the agenda get in the playoffs. >> reporter: and i ran into mark lerner when i arrived here at the ballpark. he's so excited about today. i think a lot of people the fans the experts, are saying this could be another great season for the nats. can't wait. barbara? >> all right, eun. thank you. looks like a lot of fun there. >>> heading over to the national zoo for easter monday notice extra security there. zoo officials have enacted a sweeping new measure for busy days like today. this is partly due to the several violent incidents in the past on easter monday events there, always a big day there. new measures could include bag checks and metal detectors. officials say they'll evaluate the new measures in a couple of week

lerner: i don't know, but i will find out. rep. benishek: obviously he is back in good faith and i would like that. rep. benthis is the same supervisor you have had all along? dr. head: no, really, it is dr. dean norman. rep. benishek: this is not a hip of violation, so why are they accused of violations? ms. flanz: we are very protective of patient care information and not all supervisors are aware of the right of supervisors to provide that information to other oversight bodies. rep. benishek: miss lerner, what changes have occurred since last year's hearing? ms. lerner: we have many more cases to investigate. we have been able to do a little bit of hiring, working full-time on v.a. cases and the expedited review system, hiring additional staff to work cases. our process works -- we have been getting relief or whistleblowers and getting people back to work, getting adverse personnel actions. i think people feel more comfortable and know about us and we are getting more cases. rep. benishek: thank you. doctor tell me what your res

congress voted to hold lerner in contempt of congress last may because she wouldn't testify yet the u.sattorney for the district of columbia has done absolutely nothing and the obama pointee steps down from his post tomorrow. that seems inconvenient doesn't it? that's right. more delays. and contempt charges against attorney general eric holder as a result of his refusal to turn over documents in the fast and furious scandal have amounted to nothing. well almost nothing except to see a federal judge drop the contempt charge all together and order the attorney general to turn over all of those documents. well he turned over 70000 some of them. congress said they weren't enough but he did so on the symbolically important day before the election last november and we have no more about it from the republicans or from the attorney general. the investigation of hillary will no doubt go on. gowdy and his colleagues will no doubt make a good faith effort to get to the truth. but as to actually bringing hillary to account in the e-mail scandal or benghazi, for that matter there is every reason t

lerner made his fortune in real estate. in virginia it's candy heiress jacqueline mars worth more than $26 billion. mars has been in the news recently of course. she was involved in a car crash that killed a grandmother and an unborn child in virginia. she pleaded guilty paid a $2500 fine and had her driver's license suspended for six months. >>> a celebrity custody battle is playing out in the "new york times" right now. sofia vary gar a's ex-fiance is speaking out about their fight over frozen embryos. business mogul nick lobe is demanding custody of two frozen embryos they created while together. he wants to implant the embreeyos and raise the children himself. in a new op-ed published in the "new york times," lobe writes "in my view keeping them frozen is tantamount to killing them. requests lobe's article follows a lawsuit against vergara asking them to preserve the embryos. vergara's camp says the actress doesn't want the embryos to be destroyed. >>> a narrow miss for a virgin american pilot who reported seeing a dron

this week they declined to prosecute lois lerner on contempt of congress charges. reasonable people can disagree on whether this particular charge could have stuck, but the lack of interest, lack of resources that the justice department has put into investigating what is really the political crime of the century, is to their eternal discredit. >> all right, mary? ? this . >> this is a miss for the dea. as you know, the war on drugs isn't going so well. maybe this inspector general's report gives us a hint why. the dea agents were having sex parties were prostitutes in colombia and that the prostitutes were hired by the colombiaen drug lords. >> a big hit for the world's oldest person. she died at the age of 117 in japan. she said on her 117th birthday that she felt her life actually had been kind of short. and i think it's worth noting for whatever it's worth, her husband died in 1932. >> that may explain it. >> who knows. >> and remember, if you have your own hit or miss, be sure to tweet it to us. that's it for this week's show. thanks to our panel and all of you

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we saw them drop contempt charges against lois lerner. they're not going to ask her questions. if they're not going to make state department officials who work under her talk about it -- >> but she said she would. january 28 of this year she responded and said i'm willing to come back and testify about benghazi to your committee again. crickets though. is she going to do that? >> the problem now is that there's this issue of emails. that wasn't part of the question. and whether or not benghazi came up in the emails. republicans have an opportunity right now with an open door either it's isa or someone to get in and to really press for accountability. >> there is one agency though, that might do that. the inspectors general from the state department and national archives may go to the attorney general. they may be denied and ask him for a subpoena to go into the server and see what emails are left. >> that's the next question. how should republicans handle this especially the ones running for office? so the g.o.p. does plan to use hillary email scandal to defeat her in 2016 but

he claims he has proof that the irs and what they did with lois lerner led to the president's re-electionsteve moore will be watching. i hope you do too, folks. liz? liz: david, thank you. america loves second acts. here comes one. zynga founder, mark pincus retaking company ceo post, ending don matrix's less than two years of as chief executive. stock of zynga is halted. mark was forced out under pressure and was founder and founders are not grown-ups that shareholders want to see running a company. guess what? they want mark pincus back. he is coming. the stock is expected to reopen at 4:35 p.m. eastern time. we'll see what zynga does. david: remember what steve jobs did when he came back. liz: a lot. david: sometimes reemerge ends of the founder is a good thing. liz: turning back to boston, guilty on all charges. one surviving boston marathon bomber now faces the death penalty. we'll take you live to boston coming up. ♪ ♪ help an oil company overcome minus 47 degree temps, 5 foot ice, and 16 foot waves, to safely keep crude oil flowing 365 days a year. when emerson takes up the challen

they they declined to prosecute lois lerner on contempt of congress charges.reasonable people can disagree on whether this particular charge could have stuck, but the lack of interest lack of resources that the justice department has put into investigating what is really the political crime of the century is to their eternal discredit. >> all right. mary? >> paul, this is a miss for the dea. as you know the war on drugs which is 40 years old isn't going so well. maybe this inspector general's report gives us a hint as to why. apparently, a report released last week from the dea says that the dea agents were having sex parties with prostitutes in colombia and they were hired by the drug cartels. ten of the agents said they attended some of the parties and surprisingly enough, the inspector general says the dea did not totally cooperate with the probe. >> okay. >> paul, a big hit for the world's oldest person who died this past week. a lady died at the age of 117 in japan. she said she felt her life actually had been kind of short. and i think it's also worth no

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he won't even prosecute loi lois lerner. what i want is access to the information and the documents. i don't want the legal drama. i know fast and furious and the irs and all of these other investigations we wind up in court and it's three years before the judge decides to give us an answer. and people have lost interest. and their attention has moved onto something else. i want the information. i do not want the thee ach riks and the drama. >> let me just say that there are a couple of people that i think are very important there. you've got uma on the same private server. you've got cheryl mills on that server. cheryl mills, the one who told everyone not to talk to chavitz when he went over there in ben ghazi. you can put together all the lines here and my fear is that scooby do and the scooby van are going to take observe. >> i'll tell you, judge, if we can carry the burden of persuasion, which is a pretty easy burden to carry, that the public and the media in congress should have access to the entire public record of any

than forth coming to the public in the information act request as well as to congress on the lois lerner e-mail scandal. and that's what is at the heart of those budget cuts because the irs has not told the truth on that issue. >> and when the irs was hit with the budget cuts, he comes in front of congress and said the first thing we'll have to do is stop answering customer phone calls. it reminds me of what happened when the sequester hit. first thing the white house did cut it for the school children. and make it painful to the so- called lack of funding. >> when you head a agency that is customer- service oriented. you have to put your spending in that area and put other things on the sidelines, whether it is used furniture or anything else. it helps your reputation. the irs is not popular, but if you put that money in customer service, it will help your reputation and not harm it and that's why customers are frustrated this filing season. >> what about polling? why does a government agency need polling? they should go out and do their job to the best of their ability? >> that's the m

the things that happened this will week, also, they did decide not to pursue charges against lois lernerhe was the irs official. it doesn't drop all of the investigations, but it does drop the criminal charges. remember she took the 50s. house held her in contempt, referred the charges to the u.s. attorney. and he sent an extensive letter to the speaker of the house and said i'm not sending it to the grand jury. so the decision not to go after her for contempt charges on the same day essentially we hear of the aboutenendez charges the appears appearance isn't good. >> so even if it doesn't have anything to do with politics, the timing is suspect? >> because it's been going on for the past couple of years -- >> why now. we all kind of knew this was coming. and i don't detect that much outrage in the media over this. everybody's reported the details of the luxury vacations and five star hotel. got about $700,000 stored his re-election campaign from in guy sal monday melgen. is there a feeling in the press that politics as usual, they all trade favors and why -- >> you and i live here in wa