you rescued les hewitt in 1992. the team in thailand are having to rescue children. your primary concern if you were part of that time? i think it was a big team effort to rescue les hewitt and the other caver, roy dean, at the time. with children, your correspondent said it already, it is prioritising who is the weakest, who needs to go out first, who is confident, who are the most confident boys. it would be a case of putting them in the water, with the equipment attached to them, and giving them a trial run, not under the flooded part of the cave, but in the water where they are. i think they will have worked that out and split them into groups to decide who was going to be the best to take out first, and carry on from there. it appears that is what the cases. they have suspended operations. it isa they have suspended operations. it is a very stressful experience. searching for missing persons in a flooded cave is stressful. when you find them, after the initial euphoria, you realise that they are not rescued until they are all out. i would say that they obviously

jeff crossley is a cave diving instructor and he was one of the divers who rescued les hewitt from a yorkshire cave in 1992. he is live from our newsroom in manchester here in the uk. percival, your reaction to how events have unfolded over the past few hours. it is absolutely fantastic that we have got two boys out. cautiously optimistic is what i would say with the news that they have been rescued. let's hope everybody else comes out in the same way. you are an expert diver and you have rescued individuals from critical situations. what must be going through those divers' mind? that is a good point, spare a thought for the divers. it is a very ominous task to rescue somebody from inside a small passage. i would echo everything that andrew has just said to be honest. they will be elated that they have got two of the boys out, but they will know that the job is farfrom done. out, but they will know that the job is far from done. it is like a tag tea m is far from done. it is like a tag team method where a group goes in and a group comes out on a rescue operation of this scale? that i

we can speak now to les hewitt, who was trapped overnight in a flooded cave in north yorkshire in 1992s now via webcam from stanhope in county durham. les, thank you very much forjoining us les, thank you very much forjoining us to talk about it, it makes me feel queasy because i suffer from claustrophobia but tell us what it was like for you when you got stuck. we got stuck in march 1992, we were ina we got stuck in march 1992, we were in a cave which has a long slope to getting to the vertical, 45 degrees slope, and then a lot of crawling and a huge passage about 25 feet circular. we went to the far end of that. and when we tried to come back, a bit like what happened to them, where we first crawled in, the water had risen from underneath the cave and close it off so we were stuck in a big passage. we ran to the other end where it was highest and sat on a pile of stones and within an hour, the water was up to oui’ within an hour, the water was up to our feet within an hour, the water was up to ourfeet on this within an hour, the water was up to our feet on this pile of stones. how ex