>> lesley stahl used the phrase serious pals.al was al gore. i've asked president carter on two different occasions a decade apart who in american political life he admires, and al gore would always come to the very top of his list. part of it was because of the georgia/tennessee connection, southern feel. but they just got along. he did not have that kind of relationship with jimmy carter. they both won nobel prizes. carter has been remembered by winning a nobel prize, so did al gore. they're in that exclusive club. jimmy ford was another serious pal. one could say they were just making nice. no. they really loved each other. they vacationed together, traveled together, talked to each other all the time. if you go through the papers of 1979, '80, '81, you'll see the friendship through correspondence, they were united in program after program after program. i asked president carter once about that, and i compared it to how jefferson, thomas jefferson and john adams were pitted against each other, but at the end of their lives the

lesley stahl joins me tonight. >>> thank you for joining us. it is quiet tonight on capitol hill, the snow is only partly responsible, along with beefed up security for the tranquility. the rest is because today, unlike four years ago, but in keeping with every other such occasion, politicians did their job. they certified a presidential election, and the one that came up short in it did not try to short circuit the process. in fact, she oversaw it. >> this announcement of the state of the vote by the president of the senate shall be deemed a sufficient declaration of the person's elected president and vice president of each for a term beginning on the 20th day of january, 2025. >> vice president harris' announcement ratifying her opponent's victory today came after lawmakers took just 30 minutes to certify all 538 electoral votes. four years ago, it took under 15 hours, and one attempted insurrection. mike collins of georgia described it like so on social media, and i quote, on this day in history, in 2021, thousands of peaceful grabbedmothers

joining us tonight, my "60 minutes" colleague lesley stahl who covered carter.er she interviewed him a number of times including in 2010 for "60 minutes" where she asked him about one of his perceived shortcomings. >> they told you had an image of weakness, you write they told you this, a lack of esteem in the public eye, and they just beat up on you. >> i think they were telling me that the public image of me was that i was not a strong leader, that i should not only arouse support from affection, but also from fear. >> so did you change? did you start to operate from fear? >> maybe a little bit more than i would have. >> it is so fascinating, lesley. he did a lot of things which the american public wasn't used to, he actually reversed himself on "hail to the chief. " what was he like to cover? >> he reversed himself because the public wanted him to be ceremonial, they liked the trappings of the idea of presidential power. he felt that after nixon it was time to dial back on the imperial presidency. the public didn't like that. that's why he had to give up all

if you recall, he did an interview with 60 minutes and told lesley stahl, the reason why i attacked the media is so that when you say something about me, no one actually believes. >> yeah, he told that to her. behind the scenes, according to lesley stahl, he didn't say, okay, well then let me let me use kellyanne conway's quote when she said, and this is when i knew we were in an alternate universe, when she said, truth is subjective. >> i knew then that that was the main focus for donald trump was to undermine truth. and then what we saw on the entire campaign trail was lie after lie after lie. i mean, the campaign was basically rooted in lies about what he's accomplished, what he's planning to do, all of these. so the fact that the president focused and warned us about the need to to focus on this issue of mis and disinformation, so, you know, social media platforms, not fact checking media, not fact checking. it leads us it really raises this question of what's next for us? how will we know what the truth is? i mean, my old boss, nancy pelosi used to say this all the time if we can't

he shares some of those views with lesley stahl. >> did you say, when i grow up i want to be banker?>> reporter: no? his company, jpmorgan chase, has $10 trillion a day and banks people, industries and countries. we have unbelievable numbers of billionaires come up. billionaires. what's out of whack here? >> you have to be careful to say what's out of whack. >> reporter: jamie dimon ahead on "sunday morning." >>> brooke shields, whose modeling career famously began when she was just a baby, has been in the spotlight nearly her entire life. with her 60th birthday approaching, being allowed to age gracefully so very much on her mind. she'll tell all to our faith salie. >> we all are these human beings that are just want to feel good about ourselves. >> reporter: as a young model, brooke shields helped define just how we view beauty. now, at age 59, she is locking to redefine the way we see middle aged woman. >> there is a sex appeal and then wrinkle cream. like, there is no in between. >> reporter: the age and wisdom of brooke shields later on "sunday morning." >>> seth doane will be t

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listen to jpmorgan ceo jamie dimon school lesley stahl on trump's tariffs. >> but what about advice to him on some of the policies that he's threatening to do that could hurt the economy, for instance tariffs? >> i have not spoken about tariffs. >> i think you should read the art of the deal. he's a negotiator. he lays out some very tough things and sometimes it works. we have to worry more about national security, resiliency, diversified supply chains. and we didn't. tariffs are a way every tool properly used that can help get some of those issues resolved. >> you think it is a legitimate negotiating tool? >> absolutely. yeah. also, you're a tool. put that in your stall. leslie. so you need more proof that common sense is returning. the owner of the l.a. times just admitted his paper's endorsement of karen bass for mayor was an error. wow. you think that's a gutsy take? next, he'll say it was a mistake to smoke cigarettes on the hindenburg. so it seems common sense is spreading faster than crabs at larry kudlow's seafood bonanza. the backlash has backed off. bottom line, january 20th

this was an interview in 2010 that jimmy carter did with lesley stahl on 60 minutes, kind of reflecting a little bit on his presidency. he, of course, was a one term president, just as joe biden is going to be a one term president. let's watch this. >> they told you that you had an image of weakness. you write that they told you this, a lack of esteem in the public eye, and they just beat up on you. >> i think they were telling me that the public image of me was that i was not a strong leader, that i should not only arouse support from affection, but also from fear. >> so did you change? did you start to operate from fear? >> maybe a little bit more than i would have kate, what do you make of of that exchange there? >> and how do you understand carter's legacy here in the present? >> well, you know, he said he wouldn't lie to the american people, and he didn't. i think we we kind of lionize his post-presidency and look at his presidency as, as a bit of a failure. but it's certainly not fair to say that he did a lot of incredible things, including, of course, the camp david peace accords

lesley stahl is at the white house. >> the white house. >> is hoping that tomorrow's in the 80s. women came into the newsroom. when i first joined, it was 72 and there were very few. by the 80s, there were more and more. the decade of the 80s was. >> still a time of sink or swim. you had to be resilient in your own way to to survive in a period when you were going up against a lot of people who still didn't think women had what it took. >> these are some of the most famous faces in broadcasting, all of whom happen to be women. >> now, the best producers. i'm going to get fired. the best producers at cbs news are women, and they are at the level of taking hold and making decisions about individual pieces. they're not yet executive producers of all the new shows, but they will be. for the past 24 hours, christine craft has taken her cause to many of the nation's news and talk programs. >> i didn't set out. >> to be joan of arc, but i think that what happened to me deserves some attention. what happened? christine craft had a very successful career, but there she was, in her late 30