. >> joining me now from around the country leslie redman from minneapolis, brian staples from missouriwilliams from north carolina, arianna evans from maryland, and hannah smith from virginia. thank you all for joining me, leslie let me start with you. you heard me, i compared this, to what kids experience watching 9/11. you are at ground zero of this latest crisis of police brutality, so i think about all the videos and captured on tape that you have been exposed to all of these years, and some without consequent as of black people being killed on camera. did you ever imagine that something like this would happen where you are? >> i am unfortunately not surprised, i think black people in america, white supremacy has always been an issue for us. i think if you were asleep or has been elite, maybe you have become comfortable enough to know that this was not of a reality, the people who are still on the ground and very much affected by the melanin that they have, i don't think were surprised at all. this has been a long time coming, my hope is that our brother george floyd and we can act

. >>> for more i want to bring in leslie redman who's a president of the minneapolis naacp. thank you for joining me today. >> of course. thank you for having me. >> what we were talking about with josh campbell, what happens now in minneapolis, there's a huge question. right? the city council president saying they're poised to defund and dismantle the police department. what is your reaction to this? >> first i think we have to acknowledge the root of policing in america which is slave catching. right? that's how the police has been operating for past 400 years when they were terrorizing, brutalizing and murdering black bodies without accountability. i'm thankful for the current chief, the first african-american police chief here and the first one to hold officers accountable and thankful for that. i think that we would have to see a reconstruction and a transformation because at this point people are sick and tired of being sick and tired. right? we know that police officers murder and brutalize the black community. what i believe has to happen is alternatives have to be c