, _ minister and everything. 0k, dr leslie vinjamuri, at _ minister and everything. 0k, dr leslie vinjamuriy much. ukraine has welcomed home five army commanders captured by russia, who were being held in turkey after a prisoner swap. the men had been detained for over a year following the fierce and prolonged battle for control of the azovstal steel plant in mariupol. moscow has condemned their release, saying the move breaks the terms, of the prisoner swap deal. gordon corera has more from kyiv. ukraine's president welcoming home five commanders at a ceremony in the city of lviv. translation: they were fighting for ukraine. - they survived russian captivity. they spent over 300 days in turkey. it is time for them to be home. the returning men were greeted by their families. translation: from today onwards, we will continue | the fight together with you. we will definitely have our say in the battle. with each day passing, we are advancing, destroying the enemy. the five had spent three months defending the vast azovstal steel plant in the city of mariupol, holed up in bunkers and tunnels,

leslie vinjamuri at chatham house.uch of this relationship will unfold in the next week be friendly or more for? -- foe? benedikt: i think it will be -- dr. vinjamuri: i think it will be friendly. this is a symbolic trip as a both approach a nato summit. it is a premeeting at the highest levels with the president meeting the king, obviously meeting the prime minister and demonstrating the solidity of this relationship, which is essential to the number one topic of the nato summit, of course the war in ukraine and support for that effort. i think it is important symbolically. after a period of time, when this has -- this relationship has not been added speak over the past several years, this is a significant visit. of course many questions in quiet certainly a number of things that these two countries and leaders do not agree on. i think the focus, in terms of the public discussion, will be much an alignment on the lead up to the nato summit. guy: why does the u.k. enjoy a strong security relationship with the united st

dr leslie vinjamuri, director of the us and americas programme at chatham house, has spoken to me earlierreally demonstrating the importance of this partnership, of this alliance in the run—up to the nato summit, which is going to be a difficult summit because there are some very big issues on the table in which not all nato members are agreed, and of course, we're thinking here about sweden's membership bid to be a full member of turkey of nato, which turkey has held up, to be a full member ——of nato, which turkey has held up, and there's a very significant question about what terms and conditions will be agreed for the prospect of ukraine's membership in nato. very difficult issues, not the only ones and, of course, as as you mentioned, this meeting, president biden�*s trip to the uk also will be critical in demonstrating that despite the announcement that the us will supply cluster munitions to ukraine, that the us and the uk remain aligned as they travel to that nato summit. how do you think this issue of cluster bombs is going to be addressed by the two leaders when they meet face to

dr leslie vinjamuri — director of the us and americas programme at chatham house — has spoken to me earlierf this visit. for starters, really demonstrating the importance of this partnership, of this alliance in the run—up to the nato summit, which is going to be a difficult summit because there are some very big issues on the table on which not all nato members are agreed. and of course, we're thinking here about sweden's membership bid to be a full member of nato, which turkey has held up, and there's a very significant question about what terms and conditions will be agreed for the prospect of ukraine's membership in nato. very difficult issues, not the only ones. and of course, as you mentioned, this meeting, president biden�*s trip to the uk, also will be critical in demonstrating that despite the announcement that the us will supply cluster munitions to ukraine, that the us and the uk remain aligned as they travel to that nato summit. how do you think this issue of cluster bombs is going to be addressed by the two leaders when they meet face—to—face? i think the public conversation wi

let's find out what they're likely to discuss — we're joined now by leslie vinjamuri who is directorignificant. on the sub'ect of support for ukraine, _ significant. on the subject of support for ukraine, there i significant. on the subject of. support for ukraine, there are likely to be difficult conversations because of the opposing views on the use of cluster bombs. ! because of the opposing views on the use of cluster bombs.— use of cluster bombs. i tend to think that _ use of cluster bombs. i tend to think that is — use of cluster bombs. i tend to think that is not _ use of cluster bombs. i tend to think that is not the _ use of cluster bombs. i tend to think that is not the case. - use of cluster bombs. i tend to l think that is not the case. clearly the uk is not supporting the recent decision, it is not itself going to give cluster munitions, i doubt very deeply this is something that is taking the prime minister by surprise, this has been a discussion and washington since april and probably before that, a conversation taking place primarily amongst senior team and washington