we're joined by the film's two directors, tia lessin and carl deal. there 2008 documentary was nominated for academy award. it was about hurricane katrina. they also worked on michael moore's films "bowling for "fahrenheitnd 9/11." we reached out to wnet and itvs, but they declined to join the show. we will read statements they sent and play clips from the film "citizen koch." welcome tia lessin carl deal carl. we saw you at the sundance film festival. of those thatone was premiering at sundance. what happened next? >> as we were racing to meet the deadline to get this on air is when we started to hear the first rumblings of problems at itvs. it was a week about after alex gibney's film aired. we got a series of frantic phone calls -- actually, after we decided to come up with the citizen coke." -- total "citizen koch." we got a frantic series of text messages and phone calls. they desperately wanted to see the film we're going to take the sundance. we were happy to give it to them. i guess a couple of days after that, we got on the phone with the hea