let me simplify them. one is instead of building your own data center which companies would do 10 years ago and build your own computer room at generators and air conditioning, you use an outsourced professional data center. that is one move to the court, which is one move to the crowd. the second model, which you have actually used to set up a mass of private club, where you can now provision servers on demand for your constituents within the city. in the context of a government with the compliance issues and security issues and mission critical services which you overlay, that is quite an achievement. so that is the second model which you have embarked on. the third model is clearly the public crown. he made a decision to move some of your data to a public cloud -- e-mail. -- e-mail. if you talk about the decisi

let me add this. of all the government programs, with the exception of foreign aid, which is much smaller and has been a valuable part, the greatest percentage of money we spend in the military is overseas. there are no jobs for americans in the war in afghanistan, except for a few contractors. there are no jobs for west germany, but you hit it exactly right. they have done a total pivot, because romney is attacking the president for doing something overwhelmingly popular, finally undoing the continuation in iraq, but the republican plan is, first of all, cut taxes more, so businesses, by the way, that already have a great of cash, that are telling us the problem is, there isn't enough demand. they're not going to start producing, they think they can't sell it. if you cut unemployment compensation and fire public employees, and you don't put people to work in the construction trades, then you don't get the demand. >> and then when you look at the fact that we received this out this week from the cbo,

let me show you mr. if you are at or below the poverty level, your plan isn't 9-9-9, it's 9-0-9. say amen, y'all. 9-0-9. in other words, if you are at or below the poverty level based upon family size because there's a different number for each one, then you don't pay that middle nine tax on your income. this is how we help the poor. >> 9-9-9, but if you live below poverty, 9-0-9. say amen, bob. >> well, listen p. the guy got in trouble on this. his plan got torn apart not just would by liberals, but by conservatives and the "wall street journal." herman cain is engaging at some level, interesting to some people. he reflects the resistance to romney that erin was talking about a minute ago that he's about 25%. they've been shopping for somebody else. but the party isn't going to nominate him unless it completely loses its head. president obama would ramp to victory over herman cain. rick perry is a real conservative. i think he's kind of slow, he's inarticula inarticulate, but he deviates on a couple of

let me ask you, erin, what do you think of mr. willard romney and his representations on creating jobs? >> he didn't take about his report in massachusetts, because democrats and other republicans are talking about how he was 47th out of 50 in massachusetts in terms of job creation. so i know what you're talking about when he's saying that he's not creating jobs for bain capital, because he -- with moving these companies around as he did, yes, he did get rid of a lot of jobs in order to be successful. so yes, he was misleading in that for sure. >> and let me show you something about mr. mitt "everyman" willard romney. he has some explaining to do. he and his wife own a racehorse, according to roll call magazine. they own a dressage horse, which is ridden in competition. this is very interesting. i'm sure all of us who are sitting around hoping to extend our unemployment checks are also checking on our horses. dana, this is not going to go too well with his plaid shirt i'm mr. every guy. >> well, there is an excuse, and romney says

that process begins today. >> and finally, let me turn you to pakistan, where it seems to me the u.s. has spent many, many months warning pakistan to crack down particularly on the hakani network. we have had folks in the administration both publicly and privately say they believe the intelligence arm of the pakistani government is, in fact, a supporter of the hakani network, which has attacked the u.s. embassy in kabul, among other things. is your patience wearing thin with the pakistan government? >> well, as you know, i led a very high-level delegation of u.s. officials, including chairman of the joint chiefs, general dempsey, now director of the cia, dave petraeus and others, and we had intensive discussions, and i would make three points. first, the cooperation on security that we have received over the past years from pakistan has been absolutely essential in our efforts to defeat and disrupt the al qaeda network. secondly, the pakistanis themselves, as you know, have suffered enormously from their military actions against the terrorist networks, and of course, that's not only b

. >>> and let me finish with the refusal of the tea party to let government function. we start with mr. flip and mr. flop. they both go by the name of mitt romney. mark halperin is time magazine editor at large and john heilemann is "new york" magazine's national political columnist. gentleman, let's take a look at this full screen from "the boston globe's" glenn johnson. he wrote this about the concerns about romney. "in recent weeks, mitt romney has given fresh life to the longtime political complaint that he lacks a core. the criticism has been leveled anew both by rival democrats and republicans, who may be hyperbolic as they work to dethrone him as a gop presidential front-runner. the consistency of the complaint, though, underscores a major challenge the former massachusetts governor faces, if he hopes to win his party's nomination and unseat president obama just over a year from now. can voters still getting to know him grow to trust what he says?" i go to you, mark, on that question. it doesn't seem to be the most important issue outside of ohio as it is inside

>> well, let me just review a few things. first of all, when he got to -- we were in a free fall when he got to office. last quarter in the last administration was the worst since 1930. minus nine or economy was shrinking, losing 750,000 jobs the month he took over. he too steps that were -- he took decisive steps that were as unpopular as they were newsary. that's why instead of losing a million jobs in the auto industry, they're now gaining jobs. that's why the economy's been growing, albeit at too slow a pace. we've got a lot of work to do but the fact is he took steps, those steps made a difference and now we have to take more steps to get back what the middle class has lost, which is their economic security. that is a long-term project. took years for us to get into this problem, it is going to take longer than anybody would like to get out of this. >> should it be surprising though that a president has such a hard time with congress? >> there's something different going on right now. when you have the leader, the republ

you seem to be missing that point. >> let me see what you missed. how many people did you interview? for report? how many people did you talk to to make this report? >> it seems to me that this report was based primarily on federal reports that are published. secondly based on my personal 15 years of dealing with the border in mexico. and finally we added i think dr. scales correctly stated we tried to listen to the voice of texas law enforcement and texas rural people. the qualitative basis behind this report. >> how many individuals did you personally interview to come up with this report? >> i don't know. i interviewed -- i interviewed several people. i can't give you a number. >> two? five? 20? >> i have interviewed people over 15 years. >> i will give you a number. i didn't count them. adding texas border security people, local people, i will say your the number. 30. >> the gentleman's time is expired. >> ten minutes? >> yes. not sure about his lunch with the general now after this q&a. >> let me close up. >> i have all the due respect for you a

let me ask you this. when we spoke yesterday, as i heard his story i asked him, how did you survive death row? the mechanics of this. i asked about how much time in the yard that he got. i wonder if you could share with members of -- in the auditorium where your daily life was like on death row. >> i cannot handle i was watching. this was death row in louisiana. you have three televisions on the wall, you were in your cell 23 hours per day, you get out for the shower or exercise, -- >> let me interrupt you to make this clear. you are completely alone, and the televisions are outside of the cell, or multiple inmates can be watching them? and they all may be on different channels? and you have to hear this even if you are not watching television? >> this is crazy. you have sought -- you have for televisions and four different channels, 15 people tried to talk at the same time. i was there was a mentally disturbed people and they actually had to have shot to calm them down, whatever kinds of drugs that they

we eliminated a number of the contractors that we were dealing with -- >> let me do this, i see my yellowlight on the. i don't want to be rude but i know the chairman is going to gavel me down. perhaps i can follow up with detailed questions i have. i have a final question on how we are going to interact with the new alabama law. as you know, the new law makes it a felony for an undocumented person to engage in any business transaction with a government entity. what that means is if you have a mother who use on documented and she gets a library card from both of her u.s. citizenship from she committed to felonies. under our detention and removal priorities, the woman that got to library cards would be the worst of the worst to be deported. how are we going to deal with that alabama law and our priorities and the minow? >> the scenario you picked is not in our priority coming into the purpose of the litigation we have undertaken is the number one in principle it is for the federal government to set immigration law enforcement priorities. so we will look beyond the mere conviction? >> we wi

let me start with timothy, simon, and jeanette. tim is a professor at the stanford business school where he teaches a very popular class on this service via in fact, i have taken your class, and you bring in some incredible speakers and make it very entertaining. jim also has a distinguished career in the private sector. he was the president of oracle's on demand service, which by some records was the first online on demand service. cloud computing has a lot of fathers, but tim is often called the grandfather of cloud computing because of that endeavor. but tim is also an investor in a cloud computing companies, and author of some very exciting cloud computing books. thank you for being here. next, we have simon crosby. he is an entrepreneur, who has just launched his latest company, and he might tell us a little bit about it. before that, almost just about a month ago, he was the cto of citrix systems. he got there by selling his last company to them. that company has developed some of the key virtualization technologies, which en

so, first, let me speak. so we went to the company and we said, look, you can't have any illegals working on our property. i'm running for office, for peet's sake, i can't have illegals. >> well, then he said i'm running for office. i mean, if i was a regular guy i'd be out there stuffing the law like everybody else. >> he was doing fine up until the end there in order to try to bolster his credibility when he said well, i told them, i'm running for office which means if he weren't running for office he's hire any illegal he could get his hands on. >> that's what -- everybody is going to hear it that way. he has to keep his hands clean because people are watching. what a statement! >> exactly. that's the key thing. i'm not sure a lot of these things -- a lot of things that were said in that debate we're not going to be talking about them a week from now, but that's the kind of thing i could see showing up in a republican primary debate commercial in january, february, march, into april, because it is one of t

let me know why you're awake. or you can do what josh beckett does and text the word awake followed by your response to 622639. we'll read the best responses later in the show. the next 30 minutes will be your cram session for this wednesday, october the 19th. a lot going on today, including the impact and meaning of a big quarterly loss for goldman sachs. plus, bill clinton assembles ben stiller, kevin spacey, sean penn matt damon for a video that i think you'll enjoy. but first let's get to the news live at 5:30 a.m. here at 30 rock here in new york city. last night the gloves did come off and seven republican president shial hopefuls square off. all eyes were on herman cain at least at the beginning of the night. his republican rivals took turns slamming the 9-9-9 plan to reform the american tax code. >> 84% of americans would pay more taxes under his plan. >> i love you, brother, but you don't have to have a big analysis to figure this this thing out. go to new hampshire where they don't have a sales tax and y

now, let me just -- let me just say to him -- let me just say to him, on the day -- on the day of the worst -- on the day of the worst -- on the day of the worst unemployment figures -- on the day of the worst unemployment figures in 17 years, the prime minister is fighting to save the job of the defense second but he's doing nothing to save the jobs of hundreds of thousands of people up and down this country. it's one rule if you're in the cabinet. it's another rule for everyone else. >> well, the last labour leader thought he saved the world after that this labor leader is more -- [laughter] >> what they got to do is accept some responsibility for the mess haw that you made on this country. you are the party that borrowed too much, that spent too much that left us with the unregulated banks. that left us with the mess that we have to clear up. and when you see those two sitting on the front bench who worked so long in the treasury, you have to ask yourself you wouldn't bring back fred goodwin to sort out the banks, why would you bring them back to sort out the economy? >> the house

mayor, let me thank you for keeping this time, and having your staff work with our office, and i want to knowledge that many members and participants that are here today as well, share your response. and also speak of public comment. thank you for being here. please describe the plan that our offices have been talking about given the projected long- term nature of this protest. how can the city including the -- the department of public health and recreation and caught -- parks address public health concerns and the costs associated with that as they approached the first amendment right supporting people's right to speak and assemble. >> let me remind you, from the very beginning, i have supported the. -- the spirit of the occupy movement. this is their real for the country in the city and that is why i am wanting to create jobs and opportunities in san francisco. i have partnered with all of you. we don't want to see the residence in the economic hardship. we were to fund programs like you if programs cut by the state or launching jobs that employ -- employed 200 people of san francis

jim, let me start with you. putting aside the politics and the bigering, let's put a human face on this. what would your life be like? how would it be different if president obama didn't bail out the auto industry? >> my life, my family's life would have been turned way upsidedown, reverend. we're very thankful of the obama administration, and giving us the loans so that we could continue working and supplying monies toward our communities. it would have been devastating to my family personally, as long -- as well as other families in the community, because every one of our jobs equals eight on the outside. and i would have lost my home. i probably would have ended up selling everything i had just to make it. and as you can tell -- >> you were on the verge of losing your home and having to sell everything, had this bailout not happened? >> well, absolutely, because eventually if i'm not working, there wouldn't have been any money left coming in. as you well know, michigan was one of the hardest hit. we've lost t

as we move forward with this, let me point out a few things. in this atmosphere of dwindling resources, we will have to prioritize the list of what we can do. given this, i fully support the focus on buildings that impose a fee -- that impose health and safety risk to existing occupancy neighbors. any solutions will have to continue to support this priority, but i'm happy to explore. i want to point out there is a category of homeowners who, due to social or economic reasons, are not able to pay for the repairs necessary to bring the buildings back to full compliance. to address this, the mayor's office administers a program which assists low-income homeowners in bringing their buildings backed into compliance with loans up to $50,000. not enough low-income residents know about this program, so i would their june -- i would urge you to revise your constituency. thank you. president chiu: that concludes today's formal policy discussions with the mayor. mr. mayor, thank you for being here. at this time, why don't we move to our consent agenda, it

let me clarify definitions. because you shock me, michael, you say it doesn't matter whether you run rick perry or romney, as long as you're on the right, that's where you belongs. >> i'm not saying that. >> you said that. >> i did not say that. i'm addressing your supposition that if romney is running, that he's going to -- as mark said, we're going to force him to the right. and i said that's not necessarily a bad place to be. >> force him? the republican party is moving to the right. >> you're hedging. not necessarily. a minute ago you said it was fine. >> it's the same thing. it's okay. >> okay, let me take a look at how the republican field is shaking up right now. and the reason we're talking about romney right now, how it shifts. remember the familiar sight of front-runners mitt romney and rick perry sparring in the center of the pack in the fall debates beforehand? well, tonight rick perry has been upstaged, and perhaps one of the truest signs of his surge in the polls, herman cain will be standing there

let me start with you, ed. with christie out of the race, the dropping like a rock, pun intended of rick perry, what does this mean? does romney have this locked, and if so, how does he get the conservatives to go along with him? >> well, we've got three months before anybody gets to vote so the bottom line here is there's a long, hard bat. it's not about national polls, it's about iowa, south carolina, new hampshire, virginia. and -- and other places across the country, not virginia, nevada, and at the end of the day, florida has now moved its primary to the end of the month. in january we're going to have a full scale, these guys and gal, have three months to get their campaigns together and basically make their case to the public. >> let me ask you, michael steele. david brooks had this to say in the "new york times" this morning, and i think it's something it's interesting. he says "mitt romney doesn't fit the mold of what many republicans want in a presidential candidate. they want a bold, blunt, radical o

let me run through. on this one because it's an interesting it's an interesting point here i think again you know. powers have been so involved in the region and people would call it a neo colonial experiment it's coming to an end are this is really what's at issue here is that these countries that are going through this transition whatever that transition we want to call it is going to have eventually their own foreign policies and this is something that really shakes up the work we haven't seen that in the post-war period go ahead. we know very well through so many public opinion polls that have been taken in recent years how do our ups actually feel about about israel about us foreign policy about the patient of iraq about all of these things we know for a fact how they feel and we know that if these these future governments in the debris presenting the opinion of the masses then we know that there is going to be a problem here for the u.s. it is going to be a very serious problem for israel as well a

let me just let me just finish my thought on how you and then you can jump in but i have to finish ramsey i had to finish my thought know people do go to bed people do go to bed thinking about democracy and arabs do go to bed thinking about freedom and their rights to express themselves and to have the only presenters at the parliaments the think about it they have earned it they worry about it the horrible lucian for it sick it's not about the money about poverty per se libya by the way libya in particular is one of the has the highest national g.n.p. in the entire continent of africa yet this still went through a process that yielded almost fifty thousand deaths obviously democracy does have a price freedom does have a price and they would do anything to to to get this guy who you know will carry the muslim the muslim brotherhood's opening opening kitchen you know soup kitchens and all of that and this is how they won hearts and minds just this old archaic thinking that is still purple choice for some reason the muslim brotherhood have been around for over eighty years and they h

that's next. ♪ ♪ ♪ come with me, let's go ♪ ♪ come with me, let's go ♪ ♪ cruise like a norwegian ♪ >> about all herman contain talks about. >> and 999 means jobs, jobs, jobs. >> someone once said simplicity is genius. i believe that was why i was attacked so much. >> that allows the free market system to pick the winners and losers. >> sorry, mr. cain, but you're the one picking winners and losers. all the experts agree, former reagan adviser bruce bartlett, says the plan is, quote, a huge tax cut for the wealthy. "the washington post" calls it deceptive and unfair. and the center for american progress said it would, quote, bankrupt the country. but that must be why republicans love it. cain delivers big for the top 1%. his plan raises taxes on the poor, lowers taxes on the rich, and adds to the deficit. herman also has some bad ideas for medicare and social security. he says, quote -- get the federal government out of the way. this will allow states, cities, churches and charities, and businesses to offering a helping hand instead of a handout. translation, in the safety net as we kn

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tavis: let me circle, -- let me circle back to the comment that joe scarborough made. people profess their face, how can washington lead at the believers and the white house and on the hill and what we see happening happened to poor people. >> the religious issues, he will hear that these are about abortion and gay marriage and all of the rest. what i'm saying is the religious issue in this campaign are those census bureau numbers. asked that is the religious issue. 22% of our children are poor. the poverty line is 22,000 for a family of four. try living on that for a while. that is a religious issue. any candidate who says they are a christian and is not dealing with that is not really raising the true religious issue. this next week, state leaders are sending a letter to every candidate, republican and to mr. obama, to say these census numbers are religious matters. how are you going to respond to these terrible numbers from the census bureau? those are for us will be the face issues in this campaign -- faith issues in this campaign. tavis: let me ask you to talk to

let me show you this map.measures in 16 states all over the country in a-- enacting laws since 2010. so this is a political movement. again, people have the right to agree to it, but you don't have the right to lie. we can have different opinions, we can't have different facts. >> exactly. >> carey pope, thank you for your time. >> thank you so much for having me, al. >> we'll be right back. i had a heart problem. i was told to begin my aspirin regimen. i just didn't listen until i almost lost my life. my doctor's again ordered me to take aspirin. and i do. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. [ mike ] listen to the doctor. take it seriously. riding the dog like it's a small horse is frowned upon in this establishment! luckily though, ya know, i conceal this bad boy underneath my blanket just so i can get on e-trade and check my investment portfolio, research stocks, and set conditional orders. wait, why are you taking... oh, i see. hey max, would it kill you t

and they've made a huge mistake letting me on tv and putting my films in theaters and publishing my books. and i'm so grateful for that. >> i maight have made a mistake putting you on tv. >> live! never put me on live. >> i need you to admit the obvious, i need you to sit here and say, i'm in the 1%. >> well, i can't. because i'm not. >> you are, though. >> no, i'm not. i'm not. >> you're not in if 1%? >> of course i'm not. how can i be in the 1%. that's not true. i do really well. i do well. but what's the point, though? >> because i find it more interesting if you're in the 1% because i think you probably qualify, that you are railing against a lot of capitalist ideals. >> then if you believe that about me, then that's really something, isn't it? that even though i do well, that i don't associate myself with those who do well. i am devoting my life to those who have less and who have been krapd upon by the system. and that's how i spend my time, my energy, my money on trying to up-end this system that i think is a system of violence, a system that's unfair to the average working person

so first, let me speak. so we went to the company and we said, look, you can't have any illegals working on our property. i'm running for office, for pete's sake, we can't have illegals. turns out that once question they hired someone who had falsified their documents and therefore we fired them. let me tell you, it is hard in this country as an individual homeowner to knew if people who are contractors working at your home if they hired people that are illegal. if i'm president, we'll put in place an e-verify system, which you oppose, and crack down on people who come here illegally. >> we'll stay on the topic of immigration. we're going to stay on the topic of immigration. everyone will get a chance to weigh in. this is a question that was left at cnnpolitics.com. as president, will you order completion of the physical border fence along the entire border between the u.s. and mexico? that's from marilyn l. herman cain, over the weekend, you got a lot of headlines by saying you'd have an electrified against

what the let me say the system of the plan would be even will be in the future to deal with the crowds and i don't know how this will how this will work at all because for me as a german look at russia i know the moscow is going for the no vote st petersburg but then then you are getting a little bit lost of all the distance in between cities if that's for me something which is a more or less impression of infrastructure i think it will be a lot of work but i'm convinced that also the world cup two thousand and eight the rachel for football and the support from all of it all over the world. and that's all the sports i think. if if. if. this week's top stories here on r t the spirit of the arab spring is coming to the u.s. so say protesters are angry at wall street greed and economic depression who are occupying the streets of american cities but the authorities have been cracking down on the demonstrations despite washington support for revolutions overseas. nineteen people were killed in one hundred fifty injured as thousands of christian protesters clashed with police on the streets

let me go to ed rollins. ed, i'm not sure if you caught my discussion with the reverend -- pastor jeffress. i thought he was impressive in his way. he comes from a different background than us, but i was attentive and i think he has something to say that seems to be important to a lot of protestant ministers. >> it is. and i think it's unfortunate. you and i grew up as kennedy democrats, and obviously, we saw bias towards our hero, john f. kennedy, in 1960 and before, and hopefully we thought we'd get rid of that. i think there's a bias out there against romney by some evangelicals. i think it's unfortunate, but it's true, and it is a bigotry, and i don't care what anybody else wants to call it. but i think at the end of the day, romney is a strong candidate and he's prepared to go fight that. but i'll say this, having had mike huckabee, who was an evangelical minister and what have you, there are a lot of very significant evangelical leaders who didn't endorse him four years ago, because they didn't think he

. >> let me say, e.j. and governor, before i go to you, i want to show us something. at lot of people say why do i keep talking president obama -- we can have different opinions, but not different facts. this is a graft from "the washington monthly." >>> when we went to here, here, here, and then unemployment started going up, up, here, decreasing, and then we started seeing numbers go up, then down as the stimulus money ran out. un/down, up/down. when we went from here, at the peak of unemployment down here, and then how this president has gradually brought it back, incremental, slow, but clearly a dramatic reverse, then how can anyone argue with me that the facts say that the bush policies put us in this and that the obama policies has slowly began turning this around. governor rendell? >> well, al, i think that is absolutely right. the obama policies helped stop make it worse. there's no question without the first stimulus, which is much mall lined, the conservative omb office of manage about the budget has said we would have had a point to two points worse unemplo

wait, let me get back on -- wait, driver, please, let me get back on. ms.ilton, she sat right next to me. "you need to get out so i can drive on -- get up so i can drive on." [inaudible] i want to stay black and die a natural death. [laughter] segregation is killing black people. that big fight, brown versus the board of education so all the black kids can get an education. [inaudible] the books have pages missing, and they all have things written inside of them. at the main library, we have a demonstration going on. [inaudible] how come we cannot use that facility? they cannot even get a good job and fair pay. men, they come up missing. rape -- they do not want to talk about that, but if it is a white woman, it is on the news, on the radio, on television. i do not want to die like that. so i'm going to stay black and die. if i could do one thing -- >> i told you, you need to move on. do i need to get the police?" >> sir, i picked -- "sir, i paid my fare. it is my constitutional right." the driver gets off the bus. police officers come. they are at the back

it is not exactly ronald reagan territory, so let me ask you this.r democrats who do get elected statewide in south carolina, do you think the president is a drag on that ticket? >> well, you're right, candy. we're so solidly red in south carolina. last time that a democrat won this state in a presidential race was in 1976. so i don't think that obama has much of a chance in south carolina at all. just talking this morning about the most recent poll numbers we've seen on obama where, in south carolina, you have 40% of republicans who don't think he was born in the country and another 30% who think he's a muslim. so, yeah, democrats have a hard time in south carolina at the state level and at the national level, too. >> a hard sell in south carolina, that's for sure. >> yes. >> adam, but, boy, do we love florida. it is always exciting during an election year, what are you picking up there in terms of the trends, democratic or republican? >> well, there's a myth that obama won florida last time with this great turnout from democratic voters and really

why don't you let me speak.> you're allowed to change -- >> rick, you had your chance. why don't you let me speak. you got it from the heritage foundation. >> you just said it's not true. if it's in your book... >> you took it out of your book. let's be honest. [laughter and applause] >> jon: you see that woman's look of shock. do you see the look of shock? do you know how hard it is to get a look of shock from someone in las vegas. [laughter] it's las vegas. you know what they call a show girl [bleeped] a penguin in las vegas? tuesday. but the evening was mostly about candidates answering for their past statements. for herman cain it was his 999 tax reform plan which came under heavy attackment >> reports are out that 84% of americans would pay more taxes under his plan. >> herman, i love you, brother, but let me tell you something: you don't have to have a big analysis to figure this thing out. we'll bump plans and we'll see who has the best idea about how you get this country working again. >> jon: i don't th

but i'll be doing several town halls today in new hampshire and we look forward to it and let me correct -- we did not participate in the florida straw poll. we didn't participate at all so the ranking is completely inaccurate. >> well then let's take new hampshire which they just put out a poll. your favorability there was 29% in july. it is now something like minus 18%. do you feel that anything has gone wrong in your campaign? what accounts for at leaf the trajectory of these numbers? >> i think we are doing a good job getting our message out on job growth and on turning the economy around. that's what we're working on. we're not focusing on the day-to-day. because as you have seen with many of the other candidates, candidates go up, candidates go down and what we're very concerned about is making sure that the message gets out there, because it is not about any one of us, it is about turning the economy around and creating jobs. that's my focus and i think that's why i won the all-important iowa straw poll. that poll is the only poll of all the ones that you've mentioned where anyone