so let me ask you a question. late at night just before you go to sleep, late at night have you ever had that weird sensation that maybe, maybe life is an illusion? maybe it's just a memory uploaded into your mind like the matrix, and you are the only one that's real? and in some sense someone is testing you to see whether you're smart enough to figure out that you're the only real one. ever had that weird feeling? raise your hand if you ever had that feeling. well, you're crazy. [laughter] you think you're the only to one in the universe? give me a break. you see, i'm the only one in the universe. [laughter] i'm sitting in my bed right now. this is just a memory uploaded into my mind. i'm just sitting in my bed all by myself. well, hollywood, of course, is always ahead of us, and when it comes to uploading memories, no one can do it better than the former governor of california. [laughter] the former governor of california had the memory of being married to sharon stone uploaded into his mind, and look what happe

let me put the question differently.o having heard you say that does the mta have the legal short to say those participants can break state law specifically the state code but the rest of us have to imply with us does the mta have to decedent who complies with the state law >> that's not an adequate description of what i said. the mta is not arthur the violations the mta is authorizing the regulation of red zone and the mta is exercising that authority >> let me ask the mta what their 30 years her - here from the chair to the mta. i don't know who with the mta are you going to enforce section 22 of the vehicle code against the shuttle operators? >> through the president supervisor campos i'm not familiar with the code you cited. our intents with the programs we're with owe are covering is to identify the stops that would be able to be assessed by shuttles that are participating in the permit program. and thereby rendering all other stops unavailable to anyone permitted provider or not. >> it's illegal under the vehicle c

. >> let me jump in. i understand that you have grievances with hamas and they're longstanding, but in piece talks around the world often the parties have to hold their nose a little bit to be able to even look at the people on the other side of the table. if that is the case in this negotiation, i believe it was an israeli leader who said you don't make peace with your friends. you make peace with your enemies. >> that is very right. but not in the case of hamas. we're talking about a terrorist organization. i just want to remind new 2006 hamas reached an agreement with the plo regarding joint government the same as today. the decision of the u.n. the u.s. russia, and was that these organizations would not recognize until they fulfill three conditions, one was to improve the agreements between israel and plo, and the third one which could be the most important one, to recognize the state of israel. they are not willing to agree on none of these three conditions. >> that's the perfect chance to turn to mu

let me offer one thank you. i recently returned from a trip with senator king to israel, the west bank, lebanon and egypt. in direct discussions with both prime minister netanyahu and mahmoud abbas, their personal praise of you for your efforts in trying to put the united states in the appropriate position to try to find a difficult peace deal, they said almost exactly the same thing about you. they were praise-worthy of your efforts, unprompted, and the comments they made are comments i heard from our allies and partners in egypt, saudi, uaea. it's the holy grail trying to find a solution to the problem like this. i want to thank you for your efforts to try to do something that would be so important in the world. i want to ask you about syria. syria is complicated because there isn't a consensus in this body there was a narrow committee vote authorizing military force for a limited purpose. the odds makers said had that been taken on the floor of the house it would have fail ed in the senate might have been clo

let me come back to you.phanie elam, she is outside the staples center, hours away from game five. the team is back home. you said you're already seeing billboards changes, possibly previous sponsors, as we know, so many sponsors have pulled out from the l.a. clippers. and in l.a., the two-team city, but really today, backing one team. >> reporter: definitely. and brooke, it is really interesting to me that since this news broke, we have not heard anything really coming from sterling himself, saying anything. yesterday when coach doc rivers had his press conference, i asked him a question, if he had heard from sterling. his answer was really telling to me. because he didn't say, no. he said, i was asked if i needed to speak to donald. and i passed. i felt like it wasn't the time. it wasn't even like it sounded to me, i interpreted that to say, he didn't reach out to me. the people reached out and asked if i needed that. that's not something i needed. listening to commissioner silver today, he's saying that he

let me point out very clearly the 501-c-4 -- force. >> they just completed an audit. >> let me finish. 501-c-4 are those involved in social welfare, not politics. >> congressman, there were liberals groups that were involved in politics as well like priorities usa. the irs did nothing to look at those liberal groups but they went after groups. i mean we have a point at which two liberal campaign finance groups went to lois learner and said you really to go after gps to, the karl rove group and she immediately orders an examination, an audit of that. >> look, some of the 501-c-4 groups were liberal groups. there were liberal groups that investigated. the names are in the document that's are supposed to be secret. half of the money in 2012 reported to the sec came from two groups that are related to the coke brothers and one to karl rove. it went from $1 million, as i said, in 2006 to $256 million in 2012. half of it from very conservative groups. >> gentlemen, we're -- >> a number of groups have been doing. this we need to look at it. >> again, i leave you gentlemen with again the poin

let us lay aside irrelevant differences and make our notion whole. >> joining me now, joseph califano taylor branch, the author of the landmark history of the civil rights movement, america in the king years. let's talk a little about the larger lbj legacy here as, you know, vietnam can't ever be taken away from that legacy but it seems to be that the library wants to remind people, and you were a part of this, there was a pretty large domestic legacy that president johnson left. >> it was extraordinary, chuck. you mentioned the civil rights bills. he did pass the voting rights act in 1965, he passed fair housing in 1968 in the wake of king's assassination. but beyond civil rights we had the pre-k and headstart. he started head start. the higher education bill, 60% of our college kids are there on grants and work study loans, they're called pell grants now but the higher education act he passed. but it didn't stop there. it was the first clean water law, the first clean air law. needless to say, you shouldn't have to go to boston and new york to see good theater or go to broadway for

me to see this to my own truth. thank you >> thank you. >> next speaker. >> there is there any public comment no support of appellants. okay. seeing none at this time let's go to a presentation by the planning department >> thank you supervisor chiu and good evening to members of the board i'm sarah jones i'm the environmental review officer from the planning department joining me that jenny and others. staff from sfmta including director reiskin is here to give a presentation and to respond to questions about the project itself. the planning department found the pilot plan exempts on 2014. the sfmta board of directors approved the 18 month pilot plan an january 21st an appeal was filed on february 14th accounting. the planning department has prepared a written response. p on that day the appellants filed a written brief that passes the code submittal so a second request was insinuated. my presentation is going to summarize our responses primarily the second request. the issue for a categorical not to deny the appeal or to over turn the departments decision and return the project to the planning department. p the issue is not about the merits of pilot pr

let me talk. let me talk for a few minutes. >> you respond, then you respond. then michael, i want you to weigh in. >> we will bring michael back in in a minute. >> the direct feeds you are talking about that you are claiming is a source of this vast inequity, okay, 96% of the volume executed on our system is by customers using those data products. that runs the gamut from retail brokerage firms and their advocates. you don't understand that the market has always had intermediaries since the beginning of financial markets at scale, there is going to be someone who at the time needs to be in the middle. they are using technology to manage the risks of providing that service to the market, and we help them and other types of brokers and investors use technology in a way that's consistent with their business model to manage their risks and the desires of their customers. that's a good thing. >> can i tell you why this is incorrect? >> this 96% you are referring to is the proprietary feeds. >> right. >> that everybody has been arguing about. >> there's a difference

let me ask congressman boustany.you have any evidence after a year of investigation that any official in higher-up in the irs, i higher-up in the treasury department or in the white house directed lois lerner to do what she allegedly did. >> the problem is we've been trying to follow these facts wherever they go, and we've been stonewalled with slow production of documents, and, clearly, we've been obstructed by lois lerner at every level. she misled the treasury inspector general for tax administration. she has, of course, pleaded the fifth in front of the committee -- one of the committees twice. we have been not getting the documents that we need to really fully evaluate this so that we can follow the facts from the ground up and see where they lead. congressman livin knows that we've tried to conduct the investigation in a fair way. >> let me say too, congressman, a lot of people -- congressman levin, let me ask my question of congressman boustany. a lot of people, including some republicans, some of your colleag

now, they backed down, let me tell you how. they backed down, they run, they got on the freeway and went to mesquite and grabbed their stuff and ran out of the state, towards the state of utah. utah county sheriff finished this job. take the guns away from these federal burrocrats. >> is your stance this is state land and they have no authority to be there? >> they have no authority. >> all right. let me ask you what happened to the county commissioner. you had a county commissioner that literally called after a commissioner in utah said that ranchers were going to go out there in support of solidarity to you and called them inbreds and he hopes they made their funeral plans. whatever happened to him? >> well, you know, we had a mandate for the county commissioners. we said tear down those toll stations in these parts. we've already paid for these parts, don't be charging us again and we gave the county commissioners the charge to tear them down with your bulldozers. >> aman, let me ask you, go ahead, sir, finish your point. >>

senator, good to see you. >> morning. >> let me pick up on what we were just talking about, and that is the republican pushback about whether or not the pay gap is really 77 cents for every dollar a man earns, because you saw this morning in the "wall street journal," they made the argument that it is a myth. in fact, there is, that's not the right gap. and it argues that the men were almost twice as likely as women to work more than 40 hours a week, and the pay gap widens when marriage and children enter the picture, because they return to the workforce with less experience of men with the same age, and they go on the say that the administration's claims regarding the gender gap pay are faulty and it is making it easier for the women to sue employers for equal play is goi going to create a greater dissensitive for women to be hired. >> well, women make up half of the workforce and the reality is whether it is 77 cents or higher or lower, the fact is that there is a gap between what men make and what women make for the same jobs. i had a somebody call our office, a woman from new bos

the idea that pot leads -- let me say something.on, sean, i've gone to the best schools in this country. >> yes, sir. >> everyone smokes p s pot everywhere. >> not every kid. >> there is a large number of protective members of this country and world who smoke pot. this crazy idea. >> hang on a second. noah comes at this, he's our friend from media. he comes at this from a media angle. think about bill clinton, i smoked but i didn't inhale and barack obama talking about dog a little blow and getting stoned and drunk day in and day out. nobody paid any attention to that. >> or president george w. bush who also admitted to smoking marijuana. >> the change is what i'm saying. >> what is changing is a gradual acceptance that people smoke weed and are protective members of society and what you saw in colorado could be the result of construction of elaborate taboos around the use of this and telling kids their hair will fall out and they are unable to cognate and unable to be productive members of society and try the drug and none of that

let me repeat that. when every segment of society has a voice and no community feels excluded, the new government will gain legitimacy. this will deny extremists the political support they need for the violent tactics. inclusiveness is not the only best way to improve democracy, it is also the best and only way to beat terrorism. holding elections and forming a new government, we will be getter able to make progress on the security, political, economic and diplomatic fronts. in the seven provinces throughout the election campaign there have been no reports in the security incidents. in the western provinces, improved security, improved security will depend on the speed of process of forming the new government. despite the current difficulties in anbar, the government it committed to insuring conditions for a strong voter turnout, displaced persons will be able to cast their votes at secure sites. on the political front, the process of forming a government will be conditional, conditioned on reaching an a

let me just a -- >> let me say -- >> let me finish. >> i'm not directing that at you personally. i'm saying this whole notion, you know, i think there's a politics involved in this notion that we are not, you know, pressing enough places and in of things. i just think the united states' interests are better served as trying to find the common ground to move forward on these things rather than falling prey to some of these, you know, i think stereotypes. stereotypes. >> i don't think the president made the kind of effort that most presidents would make in shaping opinion within congress, but we'll let that go and i'll just say in general, i can imagine that you would feel differently that our move to work with russia in the way that we did have certain change the dynamics in many places. and certainly, iran has been the beneficiary of that. russia has been the beneficiary of that. we have created an era of permissiveness, there's a question. and i don't think, i don't see how you can debate that. that's scholars on both sides of the aisle. understand that to be the fact, and facts

and that -- let me bring in paul. that is significant, again, if anyone's just joining us here, the breaking news tonight being that we have confirmation from a lawyer for a former top aide to chris christie who testified today before a grand jury, the first such confirmation of that kind. and so, paul, as we try to understand that, what do you make, though, of the lawyer's claim here which we've been reporting that drewniak here is not anything other than a witness? can a lawyer even responsibly make that statement unless he's received some assurance from prosecutors, in your view? >> so, what you do when you're representing someone who gets subpoena to come before the grand jury is ask, is my client a target? which means is he someone who you are thinking about bringing a criminal case against? if the answer is no, then you usually let your client in. if you don't think he has any exposure. people can actually claim fifth amendment. the fifth amendment still applies to the grand jury which is why they're not likely

>> let me run through a couple, let me run through a couple of points real quick.yes, we did think the days of the regime were numbered, absolutely true. in 2012 the regime was in retreat, lost control of turkish border, and what changed that was a big increase in hezbollah assistance. frankly, i did not imagine hezbollah was going to send 5-7,000 soldiers. and then now tear all the way up to aleppo and into damascus. this is just not something we expected, and that has certainly bolstered the regime. iraqi militia are going in in larger numbers from shia communities in iraq, and russia has increased its assistance as well. so what that has done from my point of view is it has given the regime a longer lease to hold the space between damascus up to homs and over to last kia. and i can't see circumstances in the short or medium term where the armed opposition is going to be able to change that. in the short to medium term. and what that means, what we're seeing is the country is little by little being cantonized. the armed groups that hold control of most of the nor

let me just first introduce the people who will assisting me and you this morning. on my left, i have john leavy. on my right, mr. john constabul and mr. bob armstrong from the australian transport safety bureau. over on the left, we have captain matthews, who is from the u.s. navy and is an expert on the underwater detection equipment. i don't intend to involve him in the press conference, but if anybody wants some technical detail about that equipment, he's available for one on one interviews after this press conference. from now on, i intend to hold regular media briefings in regard to the missing malaysian airlines flight mh-370 in this location. let me start with today's search. up to 10 military planes, 4 civil jets and 9 ships will assist in today's search. australian maritime safety authority has determined a search area of about 217,000 square kilometers. and that area is 1,700 kilometers northwest of perth. today's search area will focus on three areas within the same broad vicinity. the first aircraft departed for the search area at 6:00 western standard

that's a big deal. >> let me think about this with you, kendall. it seems to me, just look at the possible body of the crime here. if it's deliberate, if there's evidence based on e-mail and other corroborating evidence that there was a deliberate effort to stop traffic or slow down lanes, if that was done for -- as a political punitive measure and it's -- if what i've just given you are the facts of the case, deliberate and a political motive to obstruct people's movements, is that -- does it look to you like a crime? especially in the interstate situation? >> welsh let's start out with state law, new jersey law, official misconduct. i think that's a classic event of official misconduct. using political power ufr by virtue of your government position in order to punish or do something that's clearly outsize of what you're authorized to be doing in the scope of public service. clearly a new jersey state crime if it had been proven. federal criminal jurisdiction a little more complex. i think the feds are looking at this was undeniably interstate fac

let me give you, let me give you an example. and i'm not a tax professional but my gut tells me that it may be a productive, a productive proposal. right now we are taxing labor pretty heavily and, we're not taxing carbon very much at all. but we claim we want more jobs and less global climate change emissions. what if we put that on its head? some people have actually proposed a broad-based carbon tax as replacement for the payroll tax. there are all sorts of obstacles but at least people can understand that and pending further inquiry there is an economic maksim to the effect that if you tax something less you will get more of it. if what we want more of right now is jobs, i recognize that economists say, well corporations don't really pay it. it is all on the workers, et cetera, et cetera. i don't think workers would mind a pay increase at this point by the way. i think they would be net winners from that swap but that's another point. but, i wonder, just to, just to bust out of a conversation all together, we have supposing t

let me talk about -- back up for a second. let me talk about this her name is sharon helman.hey moved her after she lied at one v.a. hospital, they move her to run another hospital? >> yes, they did. what they do, when someone is incompetent, they take them out of a position of power and tranls of them somewhere else so they dome have to deal with them. $9394 bonus she got lastier for killing 40 veterans. i'm not that great at math but that's like $233.62 per corpse. that is -- it is an affront over the one who has worn the uniform. >> you know what, chris? not only an afront over the one who has worn a uniform. we've heard veterans. forget the ones who are dying as a prosecutor, to me that is criminally negligent homicide. >> absolutely. and for every american. the v.a. is currently about six months behind in this payment to medical venldors. vendors who provide physical therapy services. she's got veterans who are now quadriplegics, paraplegic who's don't have enough physical therapy to attend to their needs. it is disgusting. in our bipartisan climate i would think that ev

let me just say -- >> let me say -- >> well, well, let me finish. >> i'm not directing that at you personally. i'm saying this whole notion of -- i think there's a politics involved in this notion that we're not, you know, pressing in enough places and enough things, and i just think that the united states' interests are better served by us trying to find the common ground and move forward on these things rather than falling prey to some of these, you know, i think stereotypes. >> i don't think the president made the kind of effort that most presidents would make in shaping opinion within congress, but we'll let that go, and i'll just say in general i can't imagine that you would feel differently that our moves to work with russia in the way that we did has certainly changed the dynamics in many places. certainly iran has been the beneficiary of that. russia has been the beneficiary of that. we have created an era of permissiveness, there's no question. and i don't think -- i don't see how you can debate that. that's scholars on both sides of the aisle. understand that to be the fact, and fac

let me explain what happened. i would suggest going several years ago for the appeal related to the location at ivory and second avenue there were two applications for that two surface applications ultimately we approved one and denied the other in those cases at&t was able to place the facilities in the immediate area they requested >> commissioner fong we have additional appeals of this nature coming up in a few weeks. >> you think the complaint that was a first one but the second one the notification had not been given out. >> yes. there was a suggestion no notification yes. >> thank you. >> okay. thank you. mr. johnson we can take our rebuttal of 7 minutes >> so i'd like to begin by answering commissioner honda's question and make 5 points briefly so at&t does the mailings and at&t keeps record of every single mailing which we can provide if this is necessary. so the first point i'd like to make is that the city's attorney suggested there might be some question about what ms. fong told the hearing officer i wa

let me begin with you. it is clear he is willing to make the investment in his passive about these issues. >> which race is he going to play? $120 million is a lot of money to throw around. how much money as he going to spend and where? he is concerned with wins and losses. that he is willing to spend even more, both he and his fellow investors. >> he definitely indicated there is no minimum or maximum. he's a billionaire. he is lots of money. he is always competing with this conservative side of the aisle when it comes to big-money spending. one of the other interesting there's going is to be a lot of races were climate change just is not going to be the kind of clinch issue. he's going to have to pick and choose what races he actually gets into. >> you have had the chance to sit down and talk with him in a number of occasions. for our viewers watching and listening, what has motivated him on these issues? his perspective he thinks it is going to be an issue that defines how people look at the country and

let me finish the thought. everybody up here was saying we don't want to go to war -- >> this committee voted to go to war. >> they voted to have a limited strike for the soul purpose of degrading his capacity of having chemical weapons and guess what -- >> and did you not share with us that that degrading would have a definite effect on his ability to carry out against the opposition. >> i think it would have had some effect. but it wasn't going to last that long. it took 30,000 [ inaudible ] and 30 days in bosnia to have an impact is. here we were going to have one or two days to degrade and send a message. and guess what, we came up with a better solution, to get all of them out. and we have an agreement which is now working out with 54% removed. so would you rather drop a few bombs, send a message and then with him still with the capacity to deliver the weapons -- >> let me ask you this question, y'all tend to instead of meeting with us, i noticed that the administration is really good at leaking things to

big water buffalo let me get down here and settle nis. the big water buffalo comes and the lion is like i give up. it backs off. the rest of the pride comes up and they're still giving chase. they're hoping all we need is the slowest one. >> always cool to see another one turn around and render aid. >> they don't give up. they have to eat. the water buffalo, they don't give up either. like okay. >> this is like war. when you have two sides, you know, coming at each other. >> yeah. it's amazing they're not running. they are standing their ground there for a bit. >> now the water buffalo have to cover at least they're not in that wide open space. >> they start running again. they keep going. they start running up hills under all that cover and the camera stops before we find out what really happens. did they get away? we don't know. we just have really good video of how the fight went down at one point. >> the kruger national park has a lot of action down there. always something going on. >> witness saw this cruising through the streets of

let me underscore it.or which people can get unemployment benefits, one of the things you do is, of course, help them. we have never had such high long-term unemployment rates for so long. and every time we have had rates anywhere near what they are today, congress has extended such benefits. so it'sunprecedented for them to cut it out. at the macro level, there are multiplier effects. because guess what, unemployed folks go out and spend the money. that helps on the growth side. to answer your question, i thought congresswoman edwards said it quite eloquently. there is a real serious lack of consciousness, lass of empathy, lack of understanding. the idea that you can kind of walk in the other guy or gal's shoes and understand what middle and low income people are going through is very foreign to many of these members. while they seem to be extremely tuned into what millionaires need. >> you know, congresswoman, you talked about the republican budget. well, the architect of the brutal gop budget, congressm

they are presenting their stuff -- >> let me ask you this, bob. couple of months ago, you said chris christie probably knew about the bridge scandal, right? >> i said i thought he might. >> why isn't this any different? why wouldn't president obama know or somebody else high up in the administration? >> when it's republican, oh, he clearly knew. >> christie hasn't had nearly the investigations the irs has. apparently, they have come with no evidence. >> when you have somebody not cooperating and not telling the truth about what happened. >> it was president romney -- >> what you talking about in. >> they admitted it? >> admitted what? >> they admitted in the beginning. they planted a question. they admitted that they were targeting. >> lois lerner, she did the clumsy leak. >> after all these investigations, why dont they name other names? >> because they have been stonewalled completely. you know what i showed you yesterday was the irs testimony from two unnamed people that basically said there were no liberal groups targeted. they have informatio

[applause] let me give you a concrete example. a few weeks ago we saw the remarkable spectacle in las vegas, nevada. the have a lot of spectacles. this one was quite remarkable. that is a man worth any billions republicancalled candidates for president to come to las vegas to tell him what they would do for him and how they would support his agenda. i understand i am stepping on -- you think new hampshire has the first presidential primary in the country, right? primary is now the primary ise adleson the first primary in america. the difference tells you everything you need to know about what is happening in politics today. in him sure, candidates come and the democrats and the republicans hold town meetings they talk to people. people end up voting. and is called democracy. the primary -- and we do not change it how it is the future of american politics. it is a billionaire sighting, tell me what i want to hear. if i like what you're telling me, i am prepared. remember, he earned more last year. am prepared to put hundreds of mil

an indirect version of your argument. >> let me -- ok. let me try to correct this. there is no compulsory license with respect to music or video. there are different compulsory licenses with respect to satellite and cable that capture all signals and push them down to everyone. >> all right. so that would be the same and it isn't going to be a problem. >> no. where it's going to be a problem with the cloud is if you say if i'm watching a particular program and you're watching a particular program and justice sotomayor is watching the same program, we are engaging and the company that has allowed us to make a copy of that is engaging in public performance. where you have to deal with infringement is the concept of volition and the idea of who is doing the act. if i'm simply making equipment available, then -- >> but it should work out in a parallel way. that is, when i look at the program, i am making a copy of the program and, therefore, i'm violating the nonexclusive right the exclusive right to copy. now, if that's fair use and therefore, i can do it, it should al

that's the only thing. >> let me turn to your situation in russia more directly. obviously we've been seeing reports of putin's own popularity increasing in the wake of what happened in crimea. consolidation of his authority at home and his popularity at home. how do you help this audience understand what's happening inside russia, the russian people's reaction to rally around president putin in the midst of this crisis? and what does that mean for actors such as yourself and your ability to either gain traction in the public debate or even to operate as a political opponent, as a political alternative? >> we just as just mentioned, we were >> named as traitors a few of us who allow ourselves just to describe an alternative position we don't have access to television but russia continues to be a television country and people in the region continues to believe that if something is said on television it is at least almost true. that's why they are under intense propaganda and they absolutely have no i would shay alternative source of information. of course in the bi

so just let me just say this, go, tsu. dr.and the basketball championship and the girls did great. we didn't want you to leave without your own tsu scarf. may give that to you? >> i need this congresswoman, let me ask you, we're in texas where immigration is a subject of much debate. we played the video of speaker boehner making fun of people in his own caucus and kind of being mean to them. my question is, where is that guy in the halls of congress? why doesn't he ever make an appearance? >> why don't we have a handful of leaders? that's what a speaker is. a leader. you are right now at a university that has educated more hispanic lawyers than probably any other law school in the nation. it's a university. it was born out of segregation but opens the doors to all people. speaker boehner doesn't get it. he has to leave. right now in the city of houston we have done a poll that shows 75% of the individuals here believe that immigration is not a problem. in fact, it's a good thing because it builds the economy and gives opportun

let me show you a few key areas to think about as we talk about this. for example you may have heard them talking about closing down the community college and evacuating it. it's over here at this end. also at this end and one of the reasons this area is so sensitive down at spend. the whole thing is a big issue. if you look at the northwest corner of the base, move up here, the northwestern western end of it this is where major hasan's shooting took place. we know that there's a gate down here. this is called the clear creek gate. down at this corner of the base. we haven't heard as much about that. we heard more about the gate over here, the bernie beck gate which is the main gate which has many of those thousands of people coming in and out every day. that's been closed. we heard talk about the core headquarters which is right in the middle up in here. and we can move not very far away to get to darnell hospital which is another one of the facilities we've been talking about a lot. again, as you know, a moment ago, erin, we don't really know where th

interrupt, let me interrupt you, let me interrupt you if i may, congressman, because a lot of people...let me ask the question of the congressman. a last people, including republicans, say your committee and the house oversight committee have blown this because of the fact that you should have given lerner immunity. did she get it from higher ups or was it a decision by a mid-level bureaucrat. why not be given immunity and ask if she was given this order by anyone further up. >> we are obstructed by the i.r.s. we have two confirmed i.r.s. commissioners and two acting commissioners and we have still not gotten all of the documents that we need to conclude this investigation. the fact is, i want to follow the facts on this from the ground up starting with the cincinnati office. we have had good interviews. >> you have had a year, sir. a year. a year. >> we are still obstructed. >> you asked him, is there any evidence of white house involvement and he didn't answer zero. i was among the first to say, lerner should be relieved of her duties, among the very first. there is zero evidence o

>> well, let me let me take on lee first. and i mean, that's obviously the two lines of lee that are the government's favorite two lines in lee. but lee starts with a substantial burden inquiry, which is where most of these sincerity questions go. and lee definitely says that there is a sincere religious belief and a substantial burden on religious exercise. so the two sentences that you're quoting come in the compelling interest analysis of the case. and i think lee does stand for the proposition that in the tax context, it's going to be very hard for somebody to bring a claim that satisfies even the demanding compelling interest, least restrictive alternative test. >> well, that's an interesting question, because the briefs on both sides here are written as if the penalty for not having a health insurance policy that covers contraceptives is at issue. but isn't there another choice nobody talks about, which is paying the tax, which is a lot less than a penalty and a lot less than the cost of health insurance at all? these e

so let me make sure. so you got all these agents, you have, what, 500 head of cattle and taken close to 300 of them by now? >> yes, that's about the number i understand. they got a lot of them and taking these cows off their natural has been tabitat and pum in a crail to sell. >> this is not federal land, this is state land? >> this is clark county, nevada state land. >> right. how long, how long has your family been out there and how long have your cattle been grazing out there, it goes back to the 1800s , 1877 my grandfat pulled here with a wagon and a team of horses. >> this all started, aman, maybe we'll bring you into this. this all started because they said we have this endangered desert tortoise. now it's turned into a lot bigger issue than that. didn't they build a ref fuuge f the tortoise? >> yes, they have a ref fuse in las vegas, nevada where they collected so many tortoise they have to euthanize them. >> so the federal government, this whole thing supposedly started out as the desert tortoise

let me ask you one political question. you are a three term member of the house of representatives as a republican, a three term senator. any of those potential presidential candidates out there in your party that interest you or excite you? know jeb bush well and i like him a lot. i think he would be a great candidate to appeal to the broad spectrum of the american people. he may have some difficulty getting through a primary if you decides to run that if the republican party looks at winning instead of appealing to the narrower base of the republican right, jeb bush would be the kind of candidate that i think could get broad support. >> bill:, thanks for being with us today. -- bill cohen, thanks. biden and major campaign cash next. ♪ ." welcome back. rich miller, chief economic correspondent, will tell us about jenning l and plans at the federal reserve and julie bykowi ofis telling us about all the campaign money coming in. janet yellen had a very important speech earlier this week. what did we learn? y that anyphiloso