let me ask but this race. do you think it will be, do you think hill has the competence to be president? >> i'm sure that whoever the american people select. i think, i would support that. do i think that she is good on foreign policy issues? i think this is a legitimate question. it is well known that hillary clinton and i have a good relationship. >> don't you agree on a lot? >> we do agree on a lot. but i think it is a legitimate question if up, secretary clinton, tell me a concrete accomplishment while you're, during your tour as secretary of state. i think she may have trouble answering that. >> you mean a lot of input but not output? >> well, she traveled to a lot of countries. she is a great representative of america. kind of a rock star status. visited more countries than any other secretary of state. but what concrete policy or decision or whatever it is that she, was she responsible for? and i think she would have trouble answering that. >> let me ask you the toughest question with, iran. last questi

> oh, so you can close the car door and go like this -- he's a cop. >> the guy's got no gun. >> let me ask this. what kind of person tries to take a cop's gun -- >> i don't care what kind of person -- >> no -- >> let me grant you a point. he was not a nice guy, okay. >> what kind of person robs a store, intimidates a clerk, fights for a cop's gun, charges -- >> and that's justification for killing him? >> that's justifiable use of force by the law. >> no, it's not. you can say that as a matter of law, but if you're asking me as a human being, i don't think the police should be allowed to kill people. >> under the law -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> juan, juan, i used to be a cop, a detective. under the law if you feel your life is in danger -- >> he could get in the car and drive away. >> let's deal with -- >> drive away? his job is to protect and serve. they don't run away. that's not what cops do. >> he can drive away from some belligerent crazy kid -- >> see how you made a mistake? i didn't say he should not trail a guy. >> david. >> first of all a cop's job is not to leave a scene -- >>

and the republicans still -- let me ask andrea a question. andrea, what is the republican option to doing nothing? >> he's getting louder -- >> i was going to say all you have to do is show the footage of the children pouring over the border from a couple months ago. i think we both know, juan, the border is far from being secure. >> oh, my god -- >> when a republican president decides oh, i don't know, not to issue ebt cards or maybe not to collect taxes, what is the left going to do then? we are headed for a constitutional crisis. and i say this as a child of an immigrant who believes in legal immigration, a father who never took a dime from the government, created jobs, sean, i know hillary clinton doesn't believe my dad did, but this is not the way to go about doing it. and the precedent it sets takes it to an ugly place. where the left isn't going to like it. >> let me ask you one question, role call earlier had a piece the republicans have been ordered not to use the i-word, impeachment. is that an impeachable offense but politically ju

let me ask you about your involvement..com which is promoting sustainable living, charity water, alter ego, your tv -- >> alter eco. >> it's a pun. >> gc. and my favorite i did not know that, world animal day passed me by. i just adopted a cat and didn't realize i was supporting it. and you volunteered for international bird rescue. can you tell me what happened with international bird rescue. >> i saw what they were doing to rescue birds that were troubled or sick or caught in ocean plastic. and helped rehabilitate them. and release them back into the wild. it was such a beautiful experience to see what they're doing and to have an opportunity to release some of these birds. >> and watch them fly away. >> it was beautiful. >> where did this come from? >> mommy. my mother. >> she's an awesome woman. >> i grew up in new york in an urban segment. there's not so much -- there's central park. but you know, our connection to nature is limited here. and yet, she was able to teach me these values about taking responsibility and c

ask george w. bush about that, too. feeter, let meorner you and ask you whether you think the hagel firing is the beginning of the last two years and some new signal or just like, okay, we're not getting along, i need someone else. >> yes, it's so interesting because it does sound and feel like george w. bush, after his six-year midterm debacle, he comes out, he hands donald rumsfeld his walking papers and that does signal a shift. i don't think this is the same thing. it's superficially the same. it's not substantively the same. because the rumsfeld firing signaled a change of thinking and a dynamic change in power structure within the bush administration. i think this is more of a one-off. i think secretary hagel and presidentby ma didn't necessarily click, secretary hagel didn't necessarily click with the white house staff. i think it tells us a lot about how they operate. i don't think it's a philosophical or ideological or power shift so much as it is he didn't work in this particular moment. >> karen, what's interesting though,

first let me ask you this, have we in the united states been focussing on the wrong conflict?e've allocated a lot of time and resources to isis and the middle east, but in the middle east but in the meantime are we ignoring something serious going on in russia or the ukraine. >> i don't hi you can say the u.s. is ignoring it but it is ironic for europeans for criticizing the u.s. that's distracted when it is the u.s. that has been pushing europe since this crisis began last spring to take it seriously. the administration adopted policy from ukraine to try to get a negotiated solution to deescalate tensions. the u.s. thought it would achieve that with the so-called minsk agreement between putin and ukraine. that is what is unrattling. the russians thought were serious about deescalating and that is important information about the moving of weapons. >> given the reality on the ground what our correspondent just mentioned and what we're hearing in the corns of the diplomatic world should the u.s. not have ruled out military action over ukraine. >> oh, i think, i mean, whether to

congressman, let me ask you, you've been generous enough to take some time to speak with me in previous segments about control in the republican party and the various combative factions, if you will. i wonder what you would say if ted -- if mitch mcconnell is majority leader and goes forward with what he said he wants to do, which is repeal obamacare root and branch. what do you say to people like senator susan collins who is with your own party and has said we are past the point at which repealing obamacare makes sense. how do you get her on the same page as the rest of your party? >> well, i think frankly, look, the president is still the president until january of 2017, so i don't mind sending repeal there. i favor repeal but let's be realistic and recognize that that would be an item you're unlikely to get 60 votes for. the filibuster would probably come into play. even if you did, the president would certainly veto. but there's certainly elements of the affordable care act that i think are subject to repeal and revision. i think the medical device tax is something that democrats an

ask me a question. >> jon: absolutely. please welcome benedict cumberbatch. [cheers and applause] >> jon: good evening. [cheers and applause] >> jon: leta question. you get a lot of that? >> what the -- jon: the screaming, jumping and clapping. >> ya. ya. [cheers and applause] >> jon: i understand. >> it doesn't normalize. it's wonderful but very strange. >> jon: really, i will be honest. i have a lost guests on the show. presidents of country, state, unbelievable. you're the first tkweft i want to rip your clothes and sell them on e-bay. i don't know why. it's a -- something for me. >> maybe we can come to an arrangement. >> jon: i feel if you went on the internet and oiled up your back side and bared it in a kardashian like pose this planet could end. [laughing] >> jon: that's how i feel. >> satellites will crash. jon: satellites will crash. how do you feel? this performance is remarkable. we saw a little something in the clip i want to point out. explain quickly what it is. i will get to the point, the film. >> the film is called "the imitation game" it's about a team of scientists who crack the german enigma code. early and the sec

so the question of what one's goal should be, to me i came in and asked the team, let's analytically build it. that's what we've done. >> let me suggest -- this is just my thinking. not sure it is yours. but let me suggest that with the continued attacks on the aca from various quarters from individuals and groups that are opposed to it, do you feel that those attacks are having an effect -- or will have an effect on the flnumbers of people who will choose to try to enroll or enroll? is it creating doubt in their minds that the aca is here to stay? what's your personal opinion about the the effects of the negative outlook on that and it looks like it will continue to endure for the foreseeable future. >> i think there are two important things in terms of this question of the attacks. i think about it in two ways. one, i think about the numbers and then i think about this board. i think those are equally powerful in terms of what is going to keep this moving forward. that's not to say -- i should say when you're being -- when something glrm it whether it is the numbers that i went over

[laughter] >> let me ask you a question about the white house.d about this earlier in the show. the president's one public event today was on ebola. does that make any sense? >> much. [laughter] we will go back. >> i think what the president is going to say after tonight is let's get to work. the question is, a republican senate if they win are they going to say the same thing? can they bridge their own party to really get to work? i think that is what we need to figure out. >> you do not want to talk about barack obama. patti i will let you talk about your former boss. does this matter at all to hillary clinton? >> of course. of course it matters to her. >> does it affect her at all? does it affect her candidacy? >> we do not know she is going to run. should she decide to run of course it affects her prospects. here is what i think is going to happen. i think if the republican held senate does not get anything done, does not try and collaborate, compromise, work with the democrats that in 2016, anyone who gets the democratic nomination is going

let me ask a former msnbc anchor, dylan radigan and one of the deans of broadcasting, dan rather. nchor of the evening news. >> thank you. >> let me start with you in the studio. in october rachel maddow had her lowest ratings ever. she started her show two months before obama was elected. do you think obama fatigue is translating into msnbc fatigue? >> i have no question that there's some component of that, but i think that to look at any of these things without a broader context -- i think there are layers of issues that have been headwinds to msnbc over the course of the past couple of years. one is fatigue with liberal fatigue. there's a tiredness with that after six years and counting of the obama administration without question, and if nothing else, the liberal commentary becomes very predictable. >> the banner says a bleak future for blue news with a question mark. what do you think? >> first of all, i think that we who comment on these things as well as politicians who try to read what's happening with the ratings and the demographics, we all need a heaping helping of humil

let me get some clarification, please don't interrupt. >> well, i will if you go too long. >> okay? all right? let me ask this question. who designate this $600 to be spent for traveling service? >> i would just like to interject that this is a state form and this is one time only money that we had very little advance knowledge that we would be getting. so we have -- and linda has been saying this -- we have had to estimate our costs in these categories that the state has already designed for us. we will be coming back to you in december or january with a for sure budget. this is a draft budget because the state has requested that draft budget of us, and so we are making some assumptions based on some costs that have nothing to do with oregon or necessarily travel but have to do with the three programs that the state has agreed that we can go forward on with this one time only money. so we are giving you, because the question was asked for this commission meeting a preview of a draft budget that the state will actually have to approve. it's very backwards from how we usually do these things. the state will have to appr

pages.sink off the front >> let me ask you about the broad are strategy andne in this all of take the different aspects into the conomics, military, relationships emerging, threats. what is the strategy you think the united states needs funnelly over the long term? >> we have toto rebuild the u. economy. on the open shing door. that open door is liquid fuels, it in baby, drill but do an environmentally friendly way. use biofuels. permit the export of crude oil. permitting. ship l.n.g. abroad and take over energy market. we have the technology, finances all private and the resources to it. we know how to do it we need to. your view what are the top and strategic challenges opportunities? >> it depends on how you look at it. there is no sovt threat out any more. but in the long term and in the immemediate future we have to wk on a continuing basis to combat errorism, to deal with cyber threats, tassure the fincial ystem is stable and supports growth of t american economy. we have to manage the ascent of using allies in europe to do there a and combat climate change. we don't handle thos

. >> let me ask you about today. you wake up this morning, you're the head of the faa and you know it is the busiest travel day of the year. everybody may not go to thanksgiving at the same time but they sure do come home pretty much at the same time. what is your biggest, what's on your mind the most on this day? i know the generality is get everybody home safe but what do you worry about most? >> the big thing that always creates a lot of uncertainty in the system is weather. fortunately we have a very good weather day today. it should be great flying conditions throughout the whole country. little bit of rain in the san francisco bay area, but they need the rain in san francisco so that's probably a good thing. we're expecting a little over 46,000 flights today, and at very high loads, and so what that means is airplanes will be crowded. get to the airport on time because you'll have crowds to get past for security, checking your bag and all of that, but it should be a good day. >> and when you say 46,000 flights

let me ask you this, every candidate that won in the senate promised to repeal or replace obamacare. every candidate said we should secure the border first that was on the ballot. how important is it that republicans put bill after bill after bill including authorization for force against isis, energy independence, standing up to executive amnesty. how important is it that they fight hard on those issues? >> it's extremely important. it's also really important for leadership to say here are the three or four achievable goals that we're going to move forward that are in line with conservative principles, that's achievable, that's repeated over and over and over, and then they have to achieve those goals and then repeat what they achieve to the american people over and over again. and i think if leadership does that, then i think they can also make sure that they can survive 2016 when we're on a lot more on the defensive on senate races. so simple plan, achievable plan. and i agree with all that. obamacare repeal and replace, keystone pipeline, pass a budget, you can do it without the

let me ask each of you to tell us a little more about precisely the kind of people whom you would like to have participate in it? what would be a successful kind of person who could benefit from this program? president bush? >> well, for sure we want people from all walks of life. and different political persuasions. we want people who have shown the capacity to succeed. people who work hard and who work with others in a good way. and people who launched a career in whatever field, and we just want to be a little extra fuel, and -- remember the fellows, the white house fellows, bill and i both had the honor of meeting with our white house fellows. extraordinary group of people that spent time in the white house, people that were highly motivated people, and it's not exactly like the white house fellows but similar to the white house fellows. a rigorous application process. one of the challenges, by the way -- we hope people are supportive of this program help us -- is to get people aware of the program and to apply for the program. i guess that's -- got any other thoughts on that one?

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. >> let me ask you about the night that he was arrested. it was the first time i had actually been live on television for channel 4 because i was so new to the station then. out at his house, my memory is correct, you went out there that night and spoke briefly to him. is that correct? do i remember that correctly? >> i do remember that very correctly. it was a very difficult moment. he called the station as a matter of fact and asked if i would come over, and there was some considerable debate among station management about whether or not that was a good idea. i never had a second thought about it. of course i would, and i did. what was interesting to me, marion asked me to come to his house on that -- it was an awful night for him and his family. >> and christopher. >> he asked me to come because he wanted to know about treatment facilities. he knew -- it was clear at that time that he needed he. he knew because we had talked about it, that had been to treatment for drug abuse, and he wanted to know what my experience was where i had been

cosby would not address them when asked about them in an interview on npr. mark, let meyou first. this is not just one woman's claims. these are 13 different women who over nine years brought allegations against bill cosby. and barbara bowman talked a lot about the fact this was a power figure in her life. someone known as america's dad. what is your take on what we're seeing unfold? >> i think we're seeing something that, again, as you point out, has been developing for decades. i grew up in philadelphia, i've heard stories like this as long as i can remember. i can't say they're true. i'm not getting sued by bill cosby tonight. a lot of times when there is smoke there is fire. i hope the truth comes out, no matter what it is. i think it's tragic when someone considered to be a father figure on television, someone romanticized on television, could be somebody else off television. i can't say that's him, but it is tragic if true. >> ben, in this npr radio interviewed conducted tuesday but just aired this morning, so not a direct response to barbara bowman's claims, but t

. >> well, let me ask a question. let me ask a couple questions. >> but de. >> let me ask a couple questions. is he sending more agents in the border? is he building more fences? is he creating for virtual technology -- what specifically is he doing to crack down on illegal border-crossers? >> and the president specifically said he will take resources -- if he can't get more resources from congress, will he take the resources he has. rather than use them in the interior to go after families, he'll use them to go after felons and put them on the border. so, he's going to put -- >> he's going to use -- put people there when there was the influx this summer of the accompanied children. he didn't talk about putting any more people there. >> different resources. for the children it wasn't a matter of apprehending them. they were coming to us. now he's talking about using resources -- >> how many more agents is he going to put on the boreder? >> that i can't give specificity on. but -- >> is he going to build any more fences

let me ask if there are any other members of the public that wish to speak in support of the appellant. please line up otherwise [speaker not understood] is the last speaker for the appellants. >>> good afternoon, president chiu, supervisors. my name is nancy shanahan, i'm honored to be an advocate for our city's northeast corridor telegraph hill where despite all odds we managed to some extent to stem the tide of displacement and speculation that's tearing apart the social and physical fabric of our neighborhood across the city. i join with my neighbor in urging you to accept our appeal and to require an environmental review and disapprove the conditional use authorization. i've lived close to the project site for the past 27 years. all of them on filbert street. the first 14 years [speaker not understood] west of the project site near grant avenue, and the last 13 steers two blocked east of the project site, i remember when the project site was [speaker not understood] with 11 units are housing for up to 20 people including labor activists, bill bailey. it was dense housing like the

let me ask you a question. what will it take to defeat isis? in syria and then move on to iraq? the way one read about them maybe a year for a so, ragtag fertile people, ideology for this group and also the notion of the caliphate in the 21st century is absurd even for a person like me who grew up in iran. what will it take to just defeat -- >> this is the million-dollar question. i don't alleged to have a comprehensive answer but maybe i can give you a few suggestions. i think there are three layers to this. one is a military solution in the other an ideological solutions and the other is a much more deep social solution. the military solution seems clear even if accomplishing that goal will be very difficult. here i think if we want to defeat isis militarily it will involve a large and comprehensive and inclusive coalition inside the middle east. it may include groups we currently do not want fighting isis such as the syrian regime. that is the military solution continuation of what is happening and arguably escalation. isis is successful not because it imposes itself but beca

rising cost of higher education and the lackluster job market, people are starting to ask, is college worth it? let methis new cnn film. it's called "ivory tower." it asks that very question. >> you have to reflect on what it is you're buying. and what it is your parents are buying. the idea that you're going to go to keg parties for four years sounds cool. but when you think about what parents pay for, really what they're paying for is for you not to be left behind in the information economy, right? >> people say to me all the time, aren't you ruining people's lives? encouraging them to take a risk and not go to college. i think it's much riskier to go to college and take on $20,000 of debt per year and then have miserable job prospects when you get out and have to start repaying the debt. >> let's bring him in himself. from san francisco, peter teal. it's a grant that offers $100,000 to young people to put college on hold and explore their own research and entrepreneurial ideas. so, peter, nice to have you on, welcome. >> thanks for having me. >> so as we're putting the book up on the screen, you're

let me welcome senator hatch and senator counce to the hearing. before i turn to them for their questions. let me ask unanimous consent that chairman leahy's statement be put into the record which should it should be without objection. and let me ask each of you just very simply and quickly, using your own words and your own experience, explain what you think the scope is of this problem for our country and its industries. starting with mr. huffman. >> it is a tremendously big problem for us as a company. and i think more broadly as an industry because of so much of our intellectual property is protected as trade secrets. and right now, a lot of those are very vulnerable considering the changing landscape, sophistication of the means of which our intellectual property can be and trade secrets can be obtained. so anything that helps to improve law enforcement's ability to protect our trade secrets and allows us to be more secure in keeping those secrets, that are still valuable is very much appreciated by boeing. >> from your experience, the scope of the problem. >> well, with companies having almost

. >> so, let me ask, so, after an event like that, for example the fire alarms you just reset it and say that it should be working properly again and so are we assuming the same for this system and the system that everything is going to be working properly until the next inspection? >> it is an interesting question, and i have not been personally involved in the restart of a building after an event and i think that we should address that with the fire departments specifically. but from a technical, air flow standpoint if that fan was turned on it will be able to deliver the air for the floor. >> and let me ask you, that sort of like a smoke detector and the carbon monoxide detectors and we can plug that into the wall and we know that there is something wrong. is there something like that for this system? >> so, each fire smoke damper and there are many ways and we are getting to some details at this point, but there are many ways to control the fire smoke dampers and the simple way is with a local detector at the device and the other one is using ai detector in the unit to be in the

. >> joe, let me ask you this. we have an immigration law right now. hang on.have an immigration law right now. and the president's deciding unilaterally not to enforce it. he's going to decide on amnesty which should go through the legislative process. he doesn't have the right to decree or dictate or executive fiat to dictate what the law is. that's why we have separation of powers. why wouldn't you as a democrat say, mr. president, you really need to go through the legislative process, follow the constitution, don't exceed your authority and don't -- of the legislative branch. >> but sean, we don't know what the executive order is, okay. i don't know that it's succeeded any authority. we could have all kinds of experts proclaiming it will be -- >> right now to issue any order on any kind of amnesty or work permits, what would the authority underlying congressional authority, what law would he be implementing? when you're implementing law. what law would he be implementing? >> we'll have to see what the executive order is and i think immediately there will be

and that's what's happening. >> let me ask you this, because i'm going to run out of time.ther sims, arnold has a long history of fighting civil rights causes. you went with him on sunday. do you think you're going to jail? do you think you're going to do time for this? >> i sure hope not. i hope that we can certainly go to court and have this law over turned, or found not guilty. but i'm willing to do whatever it takes. people will continue to feed hungry people compassionately on the streets of ft. lauderdale. the episcopal church has been feeding individuals for a long time and we will continue to do so. >> arnold, i want to say that we're going to watch this story. people can see the mayor's whole statement on our website msnbc. we'll follow this. arnold, you've been at it a long time, 90 years old, and you don't look tired yet to me. arnold and father sims, thank you both for your time this evening and we'll continue to fall this. >> thank you. >> thank you, reverend al. >>> coming up, a top republican is thanking democrats for sidelining their, quote, best messenger,

. >> lori let me jump in and ask you, sure, let me jump in and ask you the question directly. you've been reporting that there have been courses, there have been training sessions on how to deescalate situations. will we see some kind of evidence of that work this evening, once this announcement is made public? >> reporter: well, i think a lot of the protesters, have certainly, the people we have spoken to have certainly vowed to keep things peaceful and we've also heard from the police department, like you said, they've been doing first amendment trainings, 14th amendment trainings, they've also encouraged themselves and others to be peaceful. i think that's the goal for everybody. so far with the protests we've seen this week they have been largely peaceful so i don't think we should expect anything different. there are preparation on the police end and the protesters end. back in august we did see a time when things did turn a little bit dangerous and stores were looted. i think people are preparing for this kind of things. but largely people are focused on keeping things p

. >> let me ask about the authorization of the use of military force. we should be doing all of these things but in particular this is something that republicans in theory should want to do which is one of the most important pieces of congress which is oversight in times of war. john boehner released a telling statement and said that he welcomed the president's decision regarding a new authorization to defeat and destroy isis but reminded the president that historically the commander-in-chief has identified the need for the use of military force, sent it to capitol hill and worked to build bipartisan support for its passage, the speaker urged the president to do so in this case. basically, president obama can you do my job for me? >> boehner would be really happy not to take up another aumf. it's an interesting sort of split in the house between, you know there, are lots of folks on the republican and democratic side who have been begging for a vote on this just to do something. but boehner would be happy not -- >> the idea that the president -- john bo

we didn't expect it to be a major breakthrough. >> so let me ask you about this tweet. it is widely believed to be the full count of the supreme leaders. why should, and how can israel be eliminated? the answer tonight, the questions include, why should the zionist regime be eliminated and what's the proper way of eliminating israel? today prime minister of israel responded. i want to play that for you quickly. >> he is publicly calling for the annihilation of israel as he is negotiating a nuclear deal with the p-5 plus one countries. there is no moderation in iraq. it is unrepentant, unreformed and i call on the p-5 plus one countries, don't rush into a feel would let iran rush to the bomb. >> how does the united states support a deal with a country whose supreme leader talks about eliminating any country, never mind america's biggest ally? >> first there is no question those tweets link in the account with the associated supreme leader are reprehensible and disgusting. let's say what's at stake. a nuclear weapon. it is in the united states interests, in the global com

let me also ask you i did ask the earlier panel and i think they will get back with some insight. i am very worried about cybersecurity issues and terrorism. it doesn't take much if improper safeguards are not followed whereby a whole infrastructure can be demolished very quickly. you are still not on but miss sutherland has spoken about china and we all know that china demands a great deal of repayment, usually -- they get the oil and have access to that oil. we know countries like sudan and others are often weapons are in the mix in exchange for their raw materials especially oil. i am wondering if you feel we have competed well enough with the people's republic of china, as mr. stockman and others have said the africans and you as well want to deal with the united states of america and with our private sector as well but if we are not in the game who do they turn to? we turned that corner, the chinese are still out competing us on the subcontinent? >> thank you, mr. chairman. your first question on the u.s./africa energy ministerial, leadership africa was responsible for the ou

let you do anything else? that to me would be a bad sign. let me ask any other colleagues to respond. if they have anything to add. >> i would only add to that. as i mentioned before once , again, talking about threatening to shut down the government because they do not get their way or because the president is not trying to improve the way in which the laws are carried out i think is childlike. quite frankly we need to stop , creating more uncertainty. that is not going to help create less uncertainty. it is going to create more uncertainty. that is what we need to end here. this is no secret. the president talked about the executive order for quite some time. we knew this has been coming down the path. we also know it is not the first time the president has used an executive order to carry out major events in the history of the united states, quite frankly. that, if and when i believe the president will carry through with issuing an executive order on immigration, it still will not address every issue that needs to be addressed. the congress still needs to come back here and fix a b

let me ask another question. a it listed there are some problems for people, the ngos, charitable workers traveling back and forth to western africa. is that a fact there's difficulties with travel. >> i think that's one of the greatest vulnerabilities that the united states has to fight the disease in west africa. there is not a dedicated humanitarian bridge. what has happened, there's been a lot of talk about a 21-day waiting period would make it onerous for volunteers and wouldn't go. for volunteers not to have an assurance that they can get a flight out. i promise you they will not go. >> how many airlines can fly in and out? >> i think it's 200 a week. that's general population. i u don't moe how many relief workers. >> we don't have a bridge for relief workers. >> there are two airlines. one is brussels air. you just walk. you go anywhere. you're not monitored for anything. the second one is royal air mo rack. if they should decide it's not in their commercial interest to continue flying in, there will beco

. >> let me ask you a question. if the prosecutor himself, whether he's wrong or not, let's assume he may be wrong or right but let's assume for a minute that he's uncertain as to whether charges should be filed. then is he doing the right thing? >> let's ask if facts will change, would he be uncertain because as the correspondent said, race and policing, that's the difference. when the race isn't the matter the prosecutors change it. it's a symbiotic relationship with the prosecutor and the police, and if we keep doing the same thing, george, we're going to get the same results, and that's why the people are like they are in ferguson. >> but i know that both michael brown's parents have called for calm. they don't want violent protests but after the grand jury sifts through all this evidence and they determine there was a struggle and that officer wilson did have reason to feel threatened and in danger, do you accept that finding? >> well, we have to accept the law, but think about it. they are trying to snow every