let me ask you, mrs. when was the first time you thought that ted cruz might actually run for president? was this a conversation you had long ago, or is this just something new? >> well, i guess the first time that we talked about it was the summer before last. so it depends on what you think by long ago. and ted had been an incredibly effective senator for texans but for a short time. and i think at the beginning as a professional myself when i thought about doing this for ted, i had to think about that. we support each other unconditionally. but we'd just been through a senate race, and he was doing a great job as a u.s. senator. when i thought about our country and the crisis we're in and the talent ted has, it really struck me i needed to be part of this for our country, not for ted, not for our family, but for all those other families out there that need a strong leader that can return us to a period of prosperity. >> it's a huge sacrifice. you have two young daughters. they are very, very young. wha

let me ask you. what do you think? >> debbie wasserman schultz said your comments were insulting, irresponsible. governor kasich: i have done more than any other governor to make sure women on college campuses are safe. they have confidentiality. and that the people that commit acts against them can be prosecuted. it is a time in this country for people to kind of work together on some of these issues. that is politics in washington. the fact of the matter is, most of the states could learn from what we have done in our state. we are proud of what we have done. and we want to make sure that the perpetrators are prosecuted. that women have a safe place to go. so she just ought to check out the legislation, she could probably learn a little bit. let's with governor pataki endorsing you, are you concerned -- governor kasich: i am not surprised. >> that more republican governors have not gotten behind you? governor kasich: no, i am not concerned. we have a good group in washington. you know, i am not really that worked up.

let me ask you, mrs. cruz, when you first -- when was the first time you thought that ted cruz might actually run for president? was this a conversation you had long ago or is this just something new? >> well, i guess the first time we talked about it was the summer before last. so it depends on what you think by long ago. and ted had an incredibly effective senator but for a short time for texans. and i think at the beginning as a professional myself when i thought about doing this for ted, i had to think about that. we support each other unconditionally. we've just been through a senate race. he was doing a great job as a u.s. senator. when i thought about our country and the crisis we're in and the talent ted has, it struck me i needed to be part of this for our country, not for ted, but for all those other families out there that need a strong leader that can return us to a period of prosperity. >> it's a huge sacrifice. you have two young daughters. they are very -- they are very, very young. what wa

let me ask you this, david. i'm going to go to you. kasich has 143 delegates and i was able to speak to ted cruz just two nights ago and i said what do you do about kasich? you want him out of the race. how do you get him out? and his response was you got to hope that or wait until he runs out of money. what do you think kasich is doing? >> clearly the governor is running as the spoiler. he doesn't meet rule 40b which means he has to have eight wins, eight pluralities to go to the convention. second round it could be a possibility. but more than likely, he's just going to be the spoiler. either he runs out of money, the donations dry up and he keeps going all the way to july or not. we don't control that. i would also look at marco rubio as trying to hold on to his delegates and the fact that ted cruz is playing the delegate game which means he goes to the dakotas, he talks to the convention, he tries to get the unbound delegates. it's his only counter against donald trump who's got a significant lead. >> okay. i got to go. i want to t

>> let me ask you this.o me like what you are saying is the primary is different from the general election. >> of course. >> you are almost assuming if he can win the swing states in the general election that he can't win in a primary election, it's almost like you are saying the democrats are going to come over to kasich. >> as a matter of fact, some democrats will. but a lot of independents and moderates and a lot of minority who will not vote for trump or cruz will vote for john kasich. look at what he has done in ohio. he won by 30%. he got 26% of the african-american vote and almost a majority of the hispanic vote in ohio. yes, he can win the general election. >> that's his own state. nowhere else. >> look at the polls. >> i have got to tell you charlie, look you are smarter than i am with this stuff, and i know you have follows. >> don't start that on me. >> i know they are your thing. i say to myself jeanine, how do you get up every morning and say i'm going to be president when you have only won one

host: let me ask you about another part of the debate. this is a headline. we've been seeing stories in recent weeks about the long lines. we're asking our viewers and listeners about their own experiences dealing with t.s.a. the headline summer fliers may simmer on long airport security lines. during the week of march 14 to march 20 nearly 6800 passengers missed their flight due to checkpoint delays. can you elaborate? guest: sure. there's a lot going on behind that. three years ago, t.s.a. created this sort of trusted traveler program, preczech, where passengers who have been vetted for security get to go into faster lines. they don't have to take off their shoes or their belts or their light jackets. lap tops and liquids can stay in their bags. but at the same time, t.s.a.'s staff was reduced by about 10% with the thought that they wouldn't need as many screeners because they would be moving so many people faster through hese trusted traveler lanes. but what's happened is they didn't get enough people to sign up for those trusted traveler lanes. and at th

let me ask this question because i think it's really relevant. you know the 17 guys that began this process with you. who can you name people that of the 17 and others that you would like to bring in to unite the party. a lot of people are worried. will the party unite? if the party doesn't unite hillary clinton becomes president. who are people you would like to have working with you? >> sure. i can tell you that ben carson is a terrific guy. he endorsed me and chris christie endorsed me and he is a fantastic guy. these are two tremendous people. i'd like to have them. frankly, marco i'd love to have involved. honestly many of them, almost all of them. i'm not saying all of them, but almost all of them. this party has to unite. then you're going to have the house and senate. if i'm running, i'm going to win michigan, i'm going to win -- i have a chance at winning new york. that's a tough one because people don't -- republicans don't campaign in new york. >> or new jersey. >> you see what i did a couple of days ago. i'm going to win new jersey. i

david: let me ask you about the refugee crisis, one that has grown to enormous scale here. do you see nato and there? nato playing jens: we are stepping up our efforts to assist the european union and our nato allies to handle the refugee crisis. it is the biggest human tragedy in europe since the second world war. to the agployed ships and see, they're providing surveillance, monitoring the situation and chairing this information with the greek coast guard, toca's -- turkish coast guard. toy use this information manage the situation and we have seen the number of refugees -- aing the ag and see sea. respondert the first when it comes to managing the refugee crisis in europe. it is partly a new role. greecelies, turkey and , we tried to help as much as we can. that is why we quickly decided to play ships. -- deeply ships -- the play deploy ships. david: my interview with nato secretary-general jens stoltenberg. the fed minutes debated and april interest rate -- an april interest rate hike. michael mckee calling it a lively and contentious meeting. ina: today, i found action

let me ask you about your support of your paper for senator sanders, what's that about? give us your thinking. >> well, it was a tough decisions but decided senator sanders presents a bolder and more inspiring vision and not kind of an increate mental plan that secretary clinton is presenting and time in america to think big again. we haven't had big bold ideas really since the '60s and the time requires it when you look at the frustration level on both sides, on the democratic side and republican side and one reason why donald trump is doing so well, and why senator sanders is doing so well, there's a great deal of frustration. many americans see themselves falling further and further behind. >> i know. >> getting fed up with politics. you need something big and bold right now. >> what do you make -- >> so -- >> what do you make of his philosophy? is there a belief among your readers we really have gotten out of whack in terms of wealth in this country, not just as people are struggling but people are making billions of dollars, the money is almost unimaginable what peo

i think it's a great injustice. >> let me ask something. you now -- do you remember the day you came down trump towers? melania was with you. >> yes. >> family. nine months? >> june 16th. >> what have you learned the most about our political system, especially coming off of a hard week? >> well -- [ yelling ] >> what? what was that? well, i've learned that our country is very poorly run. i can tell you that. no. i have learned there's great -- i have to say this. and you're a total professional and there are others but i have learned there's tremendous dishonesty in the media. >> true. >> tremendous dishonesty. beyond anything -- beyond anything i've ever witnessed. beyond anything i've ever witnessed. for instance, i talk about nato and i give this long -- i understand, you know, i get it. i get how it is. it's obsolete and two, three days later, people say that was something. i said that we're spending too much money. we're taking care of all the freeloaders. you know, we have 28 countries in there. we are taking care of a vast prepondera

host: let me ask you this. you say you watch every year and the people who go to the event are self-important. why do you keep watching? caller: iwatch to observe the individuals, and watched it through the clinton years -- i think with george the first, c-span covered it. i enjoy watching it not for the fashion, but to see the observation on the tables. i remember the one year wendy comedian product to lobbyist, or the advisor for george bush, -- people feel so important. it is amazing for regular folks like me to see this. they don't get what is wrong with this country. host: would you like to see the event continue, or do you think it has run its course? run as i think it should ever, as long as we continue this. i think the american people need to see this, and they will say, no, i get it. theou go to washington and budget paltrow area, there is no recession there. there is a recession and derail cindy country except for washington and parts of new york. they don't get it. they live in insular lifestyle don

. >> let me ask you, though. he has a plan to change his tone to sound more presidential and give his policy speeches. would that sway you at all? >> no, because it's not authentic. he has a history. we know what he stands for. we know how little information he has about the world we live in. when he can stand there and say the things he says about the wall he wants to build, about 7/11 rather than 9/11, he does not have any credibility. it's astonishing to me that he's come as far as he has. >> thank you, joanne, for that. he does have a chance to get real support here, steve. indiana leads the nation in manufacturing. carrier, the air conditioning plant that moved to mexico that he loves to talk about is here. we know he's going to be back. he really wants to win indiana and might need to win indiana. >> indiana probably the biggest single wild card left on the board in the republican race. jacob rascon in indiana. welcome to the msnbc sweater club. i like that look today. like to see that spread on our airwave

>> let me ask you this is totally nervous? >> hillary has been doing this for a minute i don't know if nervous is something she does.>> he is closing in on her here in new york. >> he is getting more delegates but i think at the end of the day she has a tremendous lead and she is running to the white house. >> i have mad respect but >> i have mad respect but hillary has the experience to get stuff done and his stance on healthcare wants to go back to single but i would love to have it but the problem is ted kennedy try to 50 years ago and hillary tried it back in the day and obama started when i realized that this is the only way we will get something close to universal healthcare. i don't know what he thinks he can do to fix things that have never been done before. >> did you grow up? >> virginia beach virginia. >> i am a navy brat . >> dad was in the navy . the only reason i didn't go because if you bring papers to a 12-year-old, they run so i ran !at what point did you think you wanted to act? >> i didn't start acting until

. >> larry: let me ask you this.me president, you'll face maybe a republican senate, republican house. how are you going to get them to feel the bern? obama's there for eight years. they couldn't feel the black. [ laughter ] how are you going to get them to feel the bern? >> answer is if i win, there will be a huge voter turnout. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] final there is ooh large voter turn out i suspect the democrats will recapture the senate. but more importantly, what our campaign is about, it's not just for electing a president, it's creating a political revolution. that means million of peem, many of whom have given up the political process, young people who have not participated in the political process, standing up and fighting back and taking on the establishment and demanding a government which works for all of us and not just the 1%. and when that happens and when millions of people stand up and fight back, you know what? you can see real change in this country and the congress will be forced to

let me ask you about this unbound delegate situation. ely to win and likely to win big. let me ask you a more general question. if any candidate for president is the clear landslide choice of pennsylvania republican voters in this primary tomorrow, is there really any justification for those 54 unbound delegates all deciding to vote for somebody else? >> i think what's important here is that it's not just unbound delegates. these are folks directly elected. pennsylvania's primary has been one of the toughest stories to get through in the media and to the voters. these delegates have been campaigning for more than four months in their local areas and they have pledged different -- to different candidates in some cases. some to the district winners. and some have said they're going to do what's best for the party when they go to cleveland. each one of those voters, many of them have been here for decades in pennsylvania, worked for the party, local races, very well known in their communities and they'll put forward their best vision for wha

for a contested convention, and joining us is a c nsh cnn contributor and historian, and julian, let me ask you, this alliance between cruz and k kasich, and as strange as it is, is that a winning idea or just a desperate gamble? >> i think it is a gamble. we will see how desperate it is. one of the things that we have seen is that it undercuts the support for each candidate in certain ways meaning by allying with ted cruz, kasich looks like he is not as moderate as he is arguing, and similarly for ted cruz, he seems to be tied in with the ultimate establishment figure, so i am not sure that this is going to be having the effect that they would hope for. i think it is true that donald trump keeps getting closer to the number he needs to lock it up. >> and if you don't stop him, and i mean, the stop trump group, if the they don't stop him in indiana, that is essentially it as far as any other state to try to prove really blocking him? >> yes, and the only reason that you don't want to predict finality with the donald trump candidacy is that you don't know what is going to be happening next s

let me hold that. let me ask, what do you think. >> i think you should answer the question. >> donald trump has not been shy about calling out what he thinks is a corrupt system, including the delegate selection system in wyoming. officials there are expected to announce delegate results soon, and cruz is poised to pick up most if not all of them. with me to discuss, cnn political commentator tara sat meyer and jeffrey lord, otherwise known as the dynamic duo. jeffrey, first to you. you support donald trump. trump rallied against the system during the rally earlier. let's listen, talk to you on the other end. >> i am complaining because it is not fair to the people. when you look at what happened in wyoming and what's happening there, when you look at what's happening in colorado where the people never got a chance to vote, they're going nuts out there, they're angry, the bosses took away their vote. and i wasn't going to send big teams of people three, four months ago, have them out there. again, it is so funny.

let me ask you, kimball, about the central character in your book. the coyote and we think of them as being ruthless characters and some of the ones we hear about in south texas leave people in the middle of the desert and abandon them and up the price at inconvenient times. but this coyote has a different kind of reputation and seems to be mythical, almost a robin hood character. >> yeah, well, you know, one friend described tijuana has an octopus. it has a lot of really strong arms and it can hand you what you want when you need it but it can also quickly take everything you have. and i think in that sense when this figure as a young man came to tijuana it transformed him. he was a kid in a little village in oaxaca and his job was to deliver milk on the milkman's bicycle and i don't know for certain, buts i think that is what drew his original idea. his parents immigrated to the united states to join his older siblings and left him with an elderly grandfather and they lost touch, the grandfather died, and the young guy had to o make a decision and

let me ask you, explain the next part of this process.going to have candidates that have delegates that will sit on the next rules commit, but that happens before the convention. explain what happens there. >> the week before the convention traditionally several different committees have met and one of the those committees is going to be the convention rules committee and they're job will be to dining roetermine th that govern that convention. back in 2012 we approximate ut in place a set of rules for that convention that have been the rules of the party for the last several years. so one of the things to note is that formal changes to the rules have to be adopted by that body, by that convention rules committee which will convene in cleveland a week before the convention begins. >> randy back to you. a lot of prominent republicans, anybody can be nominated on the convention floor, where john kasich's entire strategy to be that the rule doesn't apply in this particular convention, other people, mitt romney, go on down the list, mitch mcco

." >> let me ask you, is anyone here frustrated with politicians that keep lying to us? usually they talk good on the campaign trail and then they get in office and betray us. give donald credit. he's betraying us before he gets elected. >> according to some analysis, if trump wins big on tuesday, this nominating contest will essentially be over but they rely on a large number of unbound delegates going for trump and cruz and kasich are doing everything they can to make sure that doesn't happen. one other emerging school of thought that some republicans may be playing for a stalemate at this summer's convention. that is running out the clock with no nominee being chosen in which case they would have to have another convention and all 2,472 delegates to that convention would go into it unbound. you can imagine what would happen. >> the intrigue continues. john roberts on the trail in hagerstown. thank you, sir. >>> turning to the democratic race. vermont senator bernie sanders is campaigning today in rhode island. another one of those five states with a big vote on tuesda

. >> let me ask the only woman here. let me ask you about the woman thing. there's old marcus of queensbury rule. don't go confront, go into somebody's space especially if they're a woman. trump seems to break every rule. he walks into the china shop and smashes it up. >> right. so far that's worked for him. >> i always say i hate conflation. the right wing is good at conflating. saying that hillary clinton is running on her card. first of all, she didn't get to be a graduate of yale law for being a woman. she didn't go to wells -- well, that's a woman's school. back in '91 they were running as political equals. the idea that she became prominent because she's a woman, that's not true. lately she has been saying pushing the woman thing. this is chance -- is one shot unfair in the way it's being tugged. he's saying she wouldn't be here if she wasn't a woman. >> i think it's worth remembering when bernie sanders suggested that hillary clinton was unqualified, that didn't go well. people pushed back abdomen said she's clearly qualified. sg if you look at her re

. >> jeff, let me ask you to clarify a bit. let me ask you to clarify something you said on msnbc about super delegates. it's a relatively truncated discussion. for the sake of argument, stimulate at tend of the voting, we wake up on june 8th and secretary clinton is ahead in the popular vote and the delegate count. will you try to convince super delegates to be the nominee? >> we have to close the delegate lead that the secretary has. we have a substantially closed the gap of senator sanders had a run of victories. if the general election polls continue to show what they show now and have shown for kaa coup of months is he does better than every republican than the secretary. >> just to be clear, you're saying there's a circumstance you can be behind in pledge delegates and behind in the popular vote, it will be appropriate to try to spend the summer to get super delegates to to switch? >> given what i told you, yes. >> i think the place must be filled with fainting couches. the tender mercies of the people who work there, this

now, let me ask you -- have we gone nuts? this is the political correctness, this is basic common sense -- let me ask you, are there any parents of daughters here? i am a father of two little girls. here is basic common sense, grown adult men, strangers should not be alone in bathrooms with little girls. >> that's not conservative or liberal. that's not republican or democrat, that's basic common sense. >> nbc hally jackson is joining us now from where the rally wrapped up a short time ago. about 45 miles west from our set. hally, does the cruz campaign, do they see an opening here to try to rally the conservative base? >> reporter: sure craig, here is a couple of points to back it up. we are k looilooking at a new p just out today, it was conducted online looking at the north carolina's bathroom laws. their views of allowing americans to use public bathrooms according to their gender identity. republicans side with the criteria people using their birth certificate essentially by 64% to 23%. it is clear that this is an issue w

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i asked some folks recently -- let me ask you this. i asked some folks recently about a similar subject, a special envoy for guantanamo closure and a special envoy for guantanamo detention closure and both of those individuals said numerous things like you do about it is a magnet for recruiting and guantanamo is and it -- it -- it hurts our national security, it hurts us to have it there, and i ask, what empirical data do you have to support that? what empirical data do you have to support the claim that moving these individuals to south carolina or anywhere in the middle united states would have a difference? would make any difference? provided me nols empirical data of cost or otherwise. can you provide any at this time? mr. gude: there was one of the most famous cases during the bush administration, there was an interrogator, a military interrogator from iraq, reported at the time that the number one recruitment tool that al qaeda in iraq was using to draw individuals into their ranks with the existence of guantanamo bay and that it

let me ask you about your own favorites here. for a little while i thought you were warming up to donald trump. and then he made those comments about jeb bush. you got very angry about that. i know you were supportive of marco rubio, very supportive. going into wisconsin and the other states, who are you backing now? are you basically expecting a contested convention? >> i think there might well be a contested convention. look i have nothing against donald trump. i thought the remarks he made about jeb bush and president bush, how he said he lied about iraq, how he knew 9/11 was coming and did nothing about it. all of that was so wrong. that's what turned me against donald trump at that time. again, i would like him to get his act together and be a strong candidates. right now he's not showing it. i think we are on the way to a contested convention. john kasich has a lot much grassroots support and could do very well at the convention. for myself right now, listen, i did endorse marco rubio. he didn't make it. i don't want to kee

that would be nuts. >> let me ask you about hillary clinton. debate on the democratic side this week about whether she is qualified to be president? do you think she is? >> well it's not my job to be running around questioning people's qualifications. let the voters decide. look, i beat her in virtually every state all of the time. my biggest challenge now is of course the republican primary. and we just have off to keep moving on it. and we get into the fall, you talk to democrats, experts, they say, kasich can attract crossover votes. conservative democrats, and independents. and i have demonstrated an general election so. weep just got to got to that point. i am not going to start saying this person is not qualified. or start attacking their, i just don't want to go there. >> let me ask you a question about a -- something that your colleague, governor in north carolina did. he signed a law in north carolina that banned anti-discrimination protections based on sexual orientation and mandated transgender people use public bathrooms based on th

let me ask blacks. is your income going up? is your opportunity going up?e your wages been stagnant? and have some of you lost your jobs? what have you gotten? by the way be i prefer hot peppers better than salsa. deirdre: we are writing it down. if we take to you breakfast we have your order written down. intel says it will cut 12,000 jobs globally. that represents 11% of its workforce. as you know, intel posting earnings this afternoon and these job cuts are part of that reaction. it seems like trump is the only candidate still campaigning in new york. we are monitoring a live kasich event in maryland. we'll be bringing you there if john kasich says missing importance. new york polls closing in two hours' time. jo ling will be back with me with the latest data. i'm only in my 60's. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of yo

let's let them feel good about themselves again. >> let me ask you about this.e you empathize with these guys. you have to tell your wife and kids to vote but you can't vote. you can never work even if you spent hard time or eight or nine years in prison putting up with that horror of isolation and bad company and you still have to carry with you i'm an ex-con and can't vote. have you talked to guys that have been through this. the pain of being an out class. >> a second class citizen. they're embarrassed to tell their children. they would say they are going to vote. they didn't want to tell their children they didn't have the right to vote. you have hit it on the head. why should they be treated this way? they have already done their debt to society. what i don't understand is why these folks today, have come out and attacked me for doing this. why would you want to deny the right to vote. i'm not giving you gun rights back or commuting a century. i'm allowing you to be able to just go and vote. i did a gentleman the other day, bobby blevins. he had not voted f

let me ask you about the speaking fee thing. it does remind me like a rocky movie. the eye closing and the other guy keeps punching and $7,000 in speaking fees, pounding it and when he's not pounding that, he's pounding the iraq war. he just, what made him start now? >> yeah, i mean -- >> does anybody know why? >> bob kerry said if he started doing that back in the fall it would have been devastating against hillary clinton. it took him a long time to come around to the fact he was going to have to go really, really tough on her. felt like he needed to spend a lot of time introducing himself being positive. >> is this a good time to close with the fist? the numbers don't look good for bernie. she's probably -- anything can happen. i mean, honestly, anything can happen. there could be something with e-mails but he could over take her and win -- i think he's got a shot tomorrow in new york state. i really do. i'm watching the numbers close. >> tough in new york state -- >> the nominee and he's got to hold her hand in the air and tell the young people hey, she's not ba

. >> let me ask you this, is donald trump working hard enough? you are an academic as much as you were a practitioner, you could not have become a great practitioner without studying your craft. there are many trump supporters who tell me that drtrump does n study enough, let's say you. >> i don't know if you can ever study enough to be honest with you. no matter who you are, there are so much to know and so many new things to learn and so many things to consider. so many complicated relationships so absolutely, everybody should be working much harder to learn much more. it is a complex world. >> ahow do you convince him to o it because he has not done it so far? >> i believe he's working on it. i think, actually objectively if you go back and look, he's starting to talk a little bit more about policy. i think you are going to continue to see that in the future, but i think it is not just donald trump. it is been my beef the whole time when i was running. nobody wants to talk about policies. including you guys in the media, you just want to autom

let me ask you a question. -- i recognizek you, and we will try. >> and your book, you have an outline, your economic plan. on monday, you held the most extraordinary clinical meeting here where their economic agenda was also discussed. , thereat i understand were similarities, commonalities, serious differences. since then -- you begin your campaign, do you think you will be changing your economic agenda or altering them or making any kind of adequate changes or will there still remain exactly as you outline? >> any plan should not be static. any plan should be dynamic. let's assume somebody has a better idea tomorrow. we should think about it, we should discuss it, we should debate it and do it. if you ask me for 25 words or less the reason for my business success, it is that i don't get locked into a blueprint. out with what everyone is all excited about as a good plan. as we start down the road to implement it, we have 1000 better ideas. our government doesn't do that. , freeze things in concrete, and peopl

let me ask you this, donald. we're so thrilled to have you on tonight. so i want to get right to it. >> okay. >> look, the handwriting is on the wall. they're not even being subtle about it. you hired a veteran of republican convention forefights. i mean, are you expecting a floor fight? >> well, i think we're going to get it in two ways. number one, we think we'll get to 1,237 and we feel pretty good about that. but you never know, certainly there are chances you may not. it looks like new york is doing great. i love the people of new york and they seem to like me based on all of the polls. but you have other places, and we'll see how it all comes out. other places are also looking great. new jersey is looking phenomenal. pan pennsylvania is looking great, connecticut, you just don't know how it's going to turn out. what they're saying is they are all very nice, they call and say hello and how wonderful. but it's the world of republican politics and they can be somewhat deceiving. so we'll see what happens. i think we'll get it. the other thing, jeanine

first of all, let me ask you what you saw in the video. what struck you most and let's just do hands. we will put you on the spot. what did you see in that video? sorry, film. >> mostly that they carried so little with them considering it was them starting a new life. >> it seemed like they were carrying very little baggage. they did not have much with them. they brought very little with them to their new lives. what else? >> a lot of them were families it is surprising number of young children, because when we were learning at the beginning, a lot of the colonies were started by young , independent males, whereas now, there is a lot of young children and people to start completely new lives in the country. >> very perceptive. you saw a lot of women and children. that is unusual because we know that mass migrations in much of history have largely been male-dominated. the presence of women and children in such large proportions really stands out. anything else? go ahead. >> it seemed like there was a steamboat and that would indicate they re

let me ask you about your own favorites here. for a little while i thought you were warming up to donald trump. and then he made those comments about jeb bush. you got very angry about that. i know you were supportive of marco rubio, very supportive. going into wisconsin and the other states, who are you backing now? are you basically expecting a contested convention? >> i think there might well be a contested convention. look i have nothing against donald trump. i thought the remarks he made about jeb bush and president bush, how he said he lied about iraq, how he knew 9/11 was coming and did nothing about it. all of that was so wrong. that's what turned me against donald trump at that time. again, i would like him to get his act together and be a strong candidates. right now he's not showing it. i think we are on the way to a contested convention. john kasich has a lot much grassroots support and could do very well at the convention. for myself right now, listen, i did endorse marco rubio. he didn't make it. i don't want to kee

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let me ask you the same question that i asked aldrik, do you think it's proper that the way pennsylvaniaules should fengs. >> there are pocket of inertia, trump inertia that have found each other. we've formed a group, delegatesfortrump.com. a highway to who the trump delegates are, strong trump delegates in pennsylvania, in all 18 districts. >> if donald trump doesn't win your congressional district, will you re-evaluate whether you'll go to cleveland and vote for him on the first ballot? >> absolutely not. and i have to say, absolutely not because i'm convinced that donald trump is going to went the fourth congressional district, as well aspen pen. >> ryan, are you being lobbied by any of the other candidates? getting contacted by the kasich campaign? contacted by the cruz campaign or trying to win you over? >> i've got a few e-mails from the kasich campaign but just that's it. i haven't heard from the cruz campaign. all of my communication has been from the trump campaign since the beginning. >> what is your philosophy? what is your approach on not only the first ballot, but on a seco