whether there are -- whether there are alternatives that we simply have not analyzed, so, first, let me ask dpw. is it your opinion that this represents the future of hundreds of boxes that we can see? >> from the review of this memorandum of understanding, it appears that at&t is reducing the numbers based on the secret clearance from 700 and some odd down to 495 -- based on the sea " -- the ceqa clearance. >> john, from the city attorney's office. maybe i can handle this one, through the chair. the ceqa review that they did was for 726 boxes. the letter that we receive from at&t agrees that there will be an initial rollout -- an initial rollout that would be limited to 495 and there would be an additional process to install additional boxes up to what was reviewed under the environmental analysis, 726 boxes, so the application is still 726 boxes, and theceq -- the ceqa review is for all of those. they looked at having the boxes in the city. president chiu: ok, so you are asking what we are being asked today is 495, but they would be up to 7 hotter 26 boxes at some later date? -- 726 boxes at

dpw. given those comments, let me ask you and your professional opinion if there are any departments delaying responded that has rise to the level of san it is unacceptable at this point? there's not a reason behind it, changing the head of the whole department, i understand that, especially if you are saying they are being responsive. that is great. that is what we want. are there any department or audits you have done that we need to be aware of that are not being responsive? >> so far, no. i can generally get all of my responses. sometimes it takes a little push, because like everyone these individuals are busy. i am pretty adamant about getting responses, because we do take our work serious, and we are interested in helping with good government and accountability, and we do feel we need to be accountable as well. we do work hard at that. if i do find difficulty in getting what i need, i have a department head that is very responsive and is always open and easy to address and get what i need. supervisor campos: one of the reasons we are holding these hearings is so that the public, at the

let me just ask mr. allenbaugh to come up again. there are a couple of things i should ever lifted earlier. i apologize for that. in terms of some of the questions the or asked to dpw, it -- that were asked to dpw, can you talk about the site visit and when it would be appropriate for planning to go out and evaluate the esthetics, and also public process, including the public in some of these decisions. >> i think you need coordination, the site visit, and early coordination amongst the agencies. i had a couple of thoughts that came out of the testimony. i thought it was really useful and appreciate it. i think we all learned a lot from it. i wanted to make clear that when i was talking about the convergence of the general plan and the better streets plan to the directors working order, i was really looking at the adequacy of the guidelines. that was my point. i do think there is a robust set of guidelines in place through the directors working order, the better streets plan, and the general plan. they can always be strengtd,