. >> before we go to tony, let me ask john. the book that you wrote was such a commentary on how we train or fail to train lawyers. you know, in the typical method that we teach in law school. that book and that story "the paper chase," what were you saying about the way in which -- i mean, when i went to law school, the emphasis was to become a corporate lawyer. there was very little emphasis placed on being a people's lawyer. or somebody like a tony sarah. what are your thoughts on that? you've practiced. you're a law professor. recently retired. you've taught at a number of different schools. any thoughts on that? >> well, yes, i have lots of thoughts on it. i went to harvard law school. and believe me, when i was there, there was no legal aid at all. everybody was become a corporate lawyer. there was no question about it. you didn't even think about it. it would never even dawn on anybody. i don't think that anybody knew that there were defense attorneys. you know? anyway, at its heart that little clip said something, i thi

. >> let me ask john carney, what are people saying to you about the market before we let you go? the underwriters stepped in. that's what they're supposed to do. that's good. people are afraid to go long into the weekends because they don't know what's going to happen in europe. remember, if greece ever goes off the euro, they're going to do it over a weekend. >> the latest we have actually from angela merkel is she's proposing there should be a referendum in greece. she's said to the caretaker -- >> good heavens. >> a referendum in staying in the euro and link that to austerity. >> do you want to go long into a weekend like that? >> especially, guys, with the g-8 meeting going on. a high stakes g-8 meeting. we're going to have to see some sort of action on that. we should note that the greek banks were downgraded again this morning. perhaps not a surprise certainly, but it's a problem. >> i think there's the possibility of an olive branch to greece. i think with francois hollande could be more. >> when they proposed the referendum, simon, was it eight months ago? was there outra

. >> and let me ask you, john i'll get specific about this.virginia it breaks down along age lines. 58% of the voters in virginia under 30 support gay marriage 27% over 65 support gay marriage. can you extrapolate virginia across the board -- >> right. and we see that across the country in every state, the age gap is pretty tremendous. and african-americans also will be an important thing. in california pop 8 7 in 10 voted for prop 8. >> could this give him the level of youth turnout that he had in 2008? >> i think it will be a little tough given the effect of the economy on young people but this will help. >> you agree mark? >> we have this issue which as you say plays strongly to young people. they tend to be pro gay marriage and it tends to be important to them. look at what is happening in the united states senate today. loan payments are able to double, the interest rates are about to double. republicans are in favorite of letting that double, democrats are against it. that is going to make college students very angry, and make their pare

. >> warner: michael leiter, let me ask you, when john brenner said today "this i.e.d. was a threat from the standpoint of the design," what is he talking about? >> well, this bomb and also the bomb that the bomb maker asiri is probably responsible for back in 2009, the first underwear bomb and then the printer cartridges bombs that were detected in 2010 represent a real challenge for screening. with no metal pieces at all, a standard magnetometer, metal detector, won't detect that. so what you have to have instead are much more advanced screening techniques at airports to find that. fliers see that all the time here in the united states now. they're less prevalent overseas. of course we need to make sure the same techniques that we know are working here are applied overseas as well. what i would also add, margaret, is none of these detection methods are perfect. all of these require good intelligence to penetrate the organization, screening of individuals who are applying to visas to come to the united states, screening getting on to planes. it's all of these pieces th

chuck, let me ask you about the politics. john mccain, you brought up his name. he's a very important man because he has a combat record. he suffered as a pow. he he's. now he's out there saying, this put and . you had mccain and others talking about the bin laden killing. is this going to change the discussion for a while? >> i think it absolutely does. you brought up the quote bio plan. skplly have known shorthand rig right. >> and that's what it's going to do, which is to have counterterrorism 40s ready to go, special forces in place, on a. might be a base owned by afghanistan but least by the united states to launch operations like that. but when you talk about politically, i do think this sort of tables this for a while. ironically, where the president would be politically. nee, a small minority of the population that is. >> we have a whole cross beblgs. you have knee oweconservatives in one place, but the tno diswa. vaguely continuing perhaps counterterrorism regime on our part before into is. >> the facts on the ground are going to determine the politics f

. >> john, let me ask you this. we've been going with a theme all day today looking at the end of the year tax policy and how that might dictate behavior. would that trigger you to cut your dividend or slow down on the dividend increases? >> i think the thing that we all need in business is certainty. businesses don't spend or react well when it's an uncertain environment, whether it's from the economy or the policy. if they understand what the divisions are, we will make decisions on how much we give in dividends versus how much we do in share buyback and, et cetera, that's part of the uncertainty that bores my customers the most. >> so 18 ceos wrote a letter to timothy geithner saying, look, do not allow all of the bush tax cuts to expire. we need changes on tax policy. but you don't want them to expire. were you one of those ceos? did you go with that notion? >> what i would agree with is government policy would determine job creation. government policy has to think about the implications of every decision they m

of these issues that are gobbling up our civil space and our banking system let me ask you first about m.f. global i see john kors and it's still not behind bars but he's bundling for obama raising funds your thoughts what a surprise it's the it's the syndicate that's all it is and nobody from the sin the kids' heads or have a role have you seen a head roll from since the crash of two thousand and eight all the banking crimes that have been committed why should corps zein be any different did you see anybody from the merrill lynch mob go under. the goldman sachs gang oh no the five hundred fifty five million dollars fine but we don't admit or deny any allegations or wrongdoing you jaywalking you get a ticket what all of you cut in it because there's this incredible double standard of justice done before it was understood that ok had a lot of money had some influence and you can kind of write your own ticket get a jail out of free get a jail card but it's gotten absurd these days where at the top you can steal a billion point six as the jamie diamond and encores i have done but on the street level the penalti

but let me ask you one other one, here, john just at the beginning of our conversation. i don't think you wrote about this. but the whole issue of the obamacare contraception mandates and what i'm going to call the revolt of the catholics. and you just had the 43 catholic institutions including notre dame file 12 lawsuits. what does that do? obama, it seems to me, is in danger here too of dividing democrats, some of whom may anybody favor of obama, last time might have been, but they're furious at his attack on the church and religious freedom. >> well, i'm not sure that -- that's certainly a very opinionated characterization of what he's done. but i think if i would tell you what i think ought bama campaign thinks, is they think they need to win a massive gender -- they need to have a massive gender gap to win. they think that among the constituencies that give them an advantage in the electoral college and in those swing states women voters, particularly single, unmarried, that is, college-educated, socially liberal women in the suburbs in those nine states that john h

. >> john, let me ask you about the impact that facebook is having on other technology names. there's some word earlier that some managers are selling some tech stocks to buy facebook. what are you seeing in terms of the impact on tech overall? >> well, we saw some unloading of apple earlier in the week to make room for the facebook ipo obviously. right now, most of the stocks are just being dragged down because the market is in a correcting mode. i think that the technology stocks on the break of apple, back below 600 after the last earnings have obviously put pressure on the market, the jpmorgan news, the news of greece, out of china, fears of slowdown. the reserve climate cut last week. the problem in spain, the big g-8 this weekend. i think the market wants to square up before the weekend and see what happens out of the g-8 and get ready to move ahead next week on some of the data points we're going to anticipate. >> how do you think this market closes here? >> right now, we're testing the overnight lows which puts the correction from the highs at about 9%, so right now, i

. >> general let me ask you before we run out of time, john boehner said the president did a good job better than president bush. >> i have been very supportive of the president's decision. when you look at the pos cushion of the war effort against the enemy in the triable areas, there has clearly been more done under president obama than under president bush. >> there you go. pick it up, frame it, bottle it, and nail it on a wall, use it because it is true. >> thank you both for joining me tonight. >> thank you. >> ahead, the trayvon martin shooting put the controversial stand your ground law in the spotlight. now we have a new case worth looking at. and republicans my father fig, the god father of soul. on what would have been his 79th birthday.an i thought "i can't d, it's just too hard." then there was a moment. when i decided to find a way to keep going. go for olympic gold and go to college too. [ male announcer ] every day we help students earn their bachelor's or master's degree for tomorrow's careers. this is your moment. let nothing stand in your way. devry university, proud

cnn's john zarrella joins me from miami. let's start off by asking john how is the mission progressing so far? >> reporter: early on going really, really well. there's only four gochts vernme that have ever accomplished what they're attempting to accomplish. russia, the united states, japan. that's what space x is attempting to do. so far so good, marty. on track to do that sometime on friday. >> when you read the reports of this launch, you hear words like this changes everything or a game-changer. and explain to people why is this so important, this particular launch? what does it mean for the future of space? >> reporter: yeah. it's a whole sea change in the way that nasa does business. very early on nasa determined, you know, this is why we have the space shuttles retired now. nasa could not afford to continue firing the space shuttles up to the international space station as cargo carriers and astronaut carriers. couldn't afford to do that and at the same time build a new rocket to take astronauts on to places like an asteroid or onto mars. deci

ask the speaker that. i think -- first, let me just say, john boehner's patriotic american, he's a good man, he's a good congressman. he leads his party ably. but what he is proposing is to purposefully damage our country, to take the full faith and credit of our nation to the brink. and they did this once and as you noted it hurt the country. it didn't just hurt the democrats or the republicans, it hurt a lot of middle class families and we should never do that again. the debt ceiling has been raised for 95 years. we used to not have a debt ceiling and there's no real need to have it. it's a contrivance that congress put in in 1917. but every time we've done it for 95 years until this past time, it's been done in a bipartisan way because no one has ever wanted to risk our full faith and credit because then you're really risking hurting the country. i hurt to see speaker boehner do that. it's clearly what he's doing and i have to say it looks like it's just politics. >> ari, is it just politics? becomes a regular battle over spending? >> anderson, i think it's a mixture. anything of this nature has a political elem

let me ask you this, diane, now that it's john edwards' turn to tet out there and tell his side of the story, what's his demeanor? is he strutting into the courthouse now or does he seem the same? does he seem a little more confident now that he gets to talk about what happened from his point of view? >> reporter: good question. you know, he's very stoic in there. he used to be more gregarious at the beginning of this trial. i think it's wearing on him. he looks like he's lost some weight. his suits are draping a little more than he should. and he looks pale to me. during the testimony he sits very quietly. he doesn't rustle around and bring attention to himself. he sits there quietly and he often does one of these, almost like he's praying. when something embarrassing comes up, the hands move up to this point. and i notice that he doesn't really talk to his mother and father who are here, and his daughter kat daughter cate. they sit in the row behind him. there's not a lot of conversation that goes on between them. i really have to feel for these parents. they must be in their ai80s.

john haller and i would like to ask him to come up. i would like to personally thank the three of you. i know you are busy and lead complicated lives. but let me turn the floor over no john. >> please keep your seat for now richard. please join me in thanking the pan people panel. >> i think you know one of my favorite quotes about the museum was given to me by a member a couple of years ago who said this is the switzerland of silicon valley. so i hope we'vead

john holler. i'd like to ask him to come up, first of all, let me personally thank the three of you. i know you're busy. it's awfully nice for you to come here and educate us. let me turn the floor over to john. >> please join me in thanking the panel. [ applause ] i think you know one of my favorite quotes about the museum was given to me by a member a couple of years ago who said this is the switzerland of silicon valley. so i hope we've had a very swiss but very provocative and wonderful panel tonight. so thank you to all of you for being here. richard, thanks for leading it. have a good night, everyone. >> thank you all. i'm going to take -- >> here on c pan 3, we are live at the hart senate office building where leon panetta and secretary of state hillary clinton will be appearing before the senate foreign relations committee this morning to urge congress to back the united nations law of the sea treaty. the house rejected funding for the treaty last friday. the senate now has to decide how to proceed. also participating and testifying is joint chiefs chairman general martin dem

john was in new york at that time. so, you know, kind of makes a hole in the story of the masseuse. >> let me ask you, dax i don't mean e a naysayer this is all going to be worked out that photo looks so thin doesn't look like john travolta is he working out for a movie perhaps? can you give us insight? >> i thought the exact same thing when i saw the photo as well. that doesn't even look like him. the face yes, however, the body doesn't look like him but we are being told that is for sure him and it was from the 16th. this is you know coming from basically, john's people and they are cooberating the story. >> hope that is true. >> all right. piano man is spending less time in florida? selling his house. >> selling his house. by the way this is not really a house it is a giant enormous mansion. so he is listed it for $15 million down in miami right on the coast, it is over 8,000 square feet, it has like 8 bedrooms, 7 bathrooms, and it is this sprawling estate and it has an awesome pool and wine cellar no word why he is wanting to sell and move. i wouldn't want to ever move out of this house but he is moving on to somew

john mcmullen with the houston astros, he asked me to come down for spring training with houston. i said john, we're friends aren't we. let's stay that way. [laughter] then that's when i went to the mets. george weiss was over there and casey. >> rose: you admired casey, didn't you. >> very much so. tell a lot of stories about him. one story i was about to tell you, whitey ford was pitching. threw four pitches and four guys got on base and one run scored. got nobody out. casey come out to me and said does he have anything. i said i don't know, i haven't caught one yet. [laughter] >> rose: you knew that. >> i knew the story, yes. >> it was a lot of fun. >> rose: is don larsen game your greatest. >> it has to be, you know, the greatest. ogreatest pitcher and no hitter in a world series. still hasn't. >> rose: how many pitches did he shake off. >> none. he got it over. >> rose: when did you think it could be happening, sixth inning. >> seventh inning. nobody went to him. it got away from him. he called me and said what i got the plague or something. but he went out there. >> rose: this is from sports illustrated profile. yogi