me ask you nicely. >> let me ask you, sir, a question. >> -- is mas a terrorist organization? yes or no? you don't answer a question with a question. is hamas -- what part of this can't you get through your thick head? is hamas a terrorist organization? >> excuse me? excuse me? >> yes or no? >> i already answered your question. >> you did not. >> well, this is the problem, yousef, is we cannot -- why is he asking you if it's a terrorist organization? because terrorist organizations use children as shields, launch rockets into civilian populations, start a war that victimizes the poor children that are being killed in this war. and just like when america had to go into afghanistan, had to go into iraq, we saw pictures from cair and other organizations saying america's killing innocence when in fact we were fighting a legitimate war that had unfortunate deaths that happened. and this is about if you want to fight -- >> you had your chance. you didn't say hamas is a terrorist organization. good-bye. >>> coming up, we are learning more and more that is

me by phone. are you there? >> yes, ma'am. >> all right. let me ask you this, sergeant. the murder suspect is now awake. what is the latest you can tell snus. >> he actually came out of sedation yesterday. our detectives were able to question him yesterday afternoon and he is now technically in custody. he's still in the hospital. we're looking to possibly getting him released early the first of this week. and that's when he'll be transported to jail. >> okay. you said that you had spoken with him today or that detectives have spoken with him. >> yes. >> what was said? >> yesterday they did conduct an interview with him. unfortunately, i haven't been given that information but that's going to be something in the investigation that i won't be able to release right now. >> i didn't think so, sergeant, but i thought i would try you. what about when you say that the might be released and taken to

let me ask you a question about this last case. in general, you avoided giving a kind of take on the right answer or a prediction about what the court might do. i wouldn't mind each. let me ask you this. am i right thinking there would be a gap between the criminal defendant who as i understand it from the cop shows i have seen, can't say that i did not know that was the law, therefore i get off and the cop saying i didn't know the law but yet i can search her car? >> my own view is the defense should win because the ignorance of the law is no excuse. it should apply as much to officers as it does to individuals. i think it is very easy for the government. it is hard to drive without violating a traffic law. that includes one mile an hour over the speed limit. it is not like the executive branch of the state has the power to go to the legislature and say we should have a law that makes it on lawful to drive with one broken taillight. this is something very easily fixed by the legislature and ultimately if the court was right in its

let me ask you, do you feel at all in danger still? >> uh-huh. >> how so?ranslator: because i have in my mind a vivid picture of the situation in sudan. >> how are your children doing here? >> translator: my children are very happy to be with their father, together, as a family. >> what does the future hold for meriam ibrahim? >> translator: i'd like to help the people in sudan and africa, especially women and children. and to promote freedom of religion. >> and to those who view you as a heroine for christians, what do you say? >> translator: i say to them thank you very much for your support and your prayers. but i still need support. >> how so? >> translator: i need prayers. i need people's support. >> and you will get them. all the best to you and your family. >> thank you. thank you very much. >> how about that? we're going to post that entire interview to our facebook page. facebook.com/thekellyfile so you can watch it and share it. much more on it tomorrow. and for more information on how you can support meriam ibrahim, you can visit her website at m

let me ask you it this way -- why wouldn't you run? what would be the reason you wouldn't run for president in 2016? >> that's interesting. nobody's really asked me that way before. because i think there would be a person running that i believe in, that i think will do a fantastic job and i have a very important role in congress to play that i can make a big difference. i feel like i'm a workhorse in congress getting things done, moving the ball there. the way i look at my life in public service is i just want to do as much as i can to help get the country on the right track, which i really believe the next half-a-dozen years or so will determine the trajectory of america for at least a generation. the reason wouldn't be -- would be because i think there's somebody else better suited and we like having normal family life. it is not exactly a nomal family life. i don't know yet. >> what's your timetable? >> '15. i don't have a specific date. but somewhere in 2015 you have to make your mind up and get in this game. >> how much are you lo

maybe it is and i'm completely in favor of exploring that. >> let me ask you about russia, because i ow that in your position, you certainly deal with the u.s. and russia on matters concerning the middle east, particularly israel and the palestinians. so now there is this huge gulf between the united states and russia, because of russia's aggression in ukraine, and its downright takeover of crimea. prior to this, the u.s. had said well, we really hope that the russians can be useful in syria, since they are friends of assad. we really hope they can be useful in iran and pressuring iran to give up its uranium enrichment program. has that all now gone away and can we not expect russia to be helpful in the fight against terrorism? >> well it's a good question. i mean i -- i think in respect of the ukraine sh the west hat got to stick to the very tough position it has outlined and you know, there should be no question of trading policy here. on the other hand, the truth is that are ushia has an enormous interest in fighting islamic extremism, almost 20% of the russian population today is

. >> let me ask you a little with it about the president's statements over the week on immigration. he was planning on taking executive action on immigration reform because he said congress wouldn't do anything. then we were told yesterday that the president has decided in fact he will put off any executive action until after the election. white house aides who were briefing reporters made no bones about it they said they were doing this because democrats, some of them in very tight senate races, democratic candidates felt it was going to hurt their chances for re-election. the president says, it's not politics that is behind it but what do you -- what do you make of all this? >> it's definitely politics. let me say this. i think that we have to deal with immigration. we have a broken enforcement system on immigration. we have legal immigration system that outdated and needs to be modernized to win the global competition for talent we have millions of people living in this country illegal lehman owe have been here for a decade or longer we need to find responsible 'of incorporating

let me ask you about this coalition building. etary of state kerry, he's been traveling nonstop. how do you assess the coalition building efforts so far? i mean, george w. bush took plenty of criticism for what he had called a coalition of the willing during the iraq war. do you think president obama is doing any better? >> well, i think he's putting together a coalition of the willing. the question, willing to do what is going to be the question. you know, we have a number of nations signed up, but what they're signed up for seems like pretty light lifting. it's been striking, even david cameron and the uk who had -- and uk has been so firmly with us in the past, and, of course, tony blair paid a price for that at home. but even after the beheading of one of their own, david cameron said we're going to work with the united states, but they're only providing sort of surveillance and intelligence. they're not joining the air strikes. cameron clearly has got his eye, you know -- he's looking down the road this week at the vote on sc

. >> let me ask you about this point that you bring up. just how big a threat is isis? >> terrorism is a danger for the whole world under any name or any forum. it can be a threat to peace and stability. a threat to the usual life of the people and the big threat to development and today unfortunately in our region there are terrorist groups have been able to, you know, to change the life of the people that have created some problems for the people. millions of people have been displaced. the residents of the people. the trade venue of the people have been detroyed and the people towards their future and children are very worried about them. >> president obama says isis is neither islamic nor a state. the british prime minister says they are not muslims. they're monsters. are they correct in their statements? >> islam on old religions such as judaism and christianianty are inviting people and they have invited people to brotherhood and friendship. they have invited people to administer justice. whoever threatens and intimidates others and damages the life of the people

. >> let me ask you about this idea ever the post result hangover. the divisions were quite intense. there was very fierce campaigning, obviously peaceful, nothing like stuff we've seen around the world. and this was a legal and incredibly engaged referendum and an incredibly engaged vote, but there were very hard feelings and divisions even within families. are those going to be knitted together to go forward, do you think? >> well, there is a great sense of history in scotland. a lofrt the campaign was about what happened 307 years ago with the active union, the battle of bannock burn whose anniversary is close. and a lot of this will go into scottish mythology.

. >> let me ask you, i know you have been talking about this deal. is this the placeholder valuation they can say is raising during the roadshow so there's a lot of investor excitement about the deal? asthis is something that, you mentioned, started off relatively conservatively. a if they sense a strong amount of demand from the investors it is something they could raise. this is a bearing -- this is a very big deal. they need to have people that are willing to purchase that much stock and are going to hold onto that much stock. levels they could raise it if they do sense that demand. they have a lot of shares to sell. >> that is one of the interesting things about this. we have seen so many listings of a glue it -- of big technologies where they offer a fraction of the shares, key aiding what appears to be strong demand by limiting supply. >> they have a dispensable approach. mystery still a bit of and a bit of hangover. >> oh when i look through the deal i go digging for accounting rarely we have such an esteemed guest list. talk to me about what

. >> let me ask you what question. -- let me ask you a question. do you believe that pensions are a crisis? the legislature has not come to terms on some kind of a pension plan. is it a crisis or is it not? >> i am not sure about this crisis problem issue. that is a semantics thing. we have a problem. if we do not do something about it, it will become a crisis. we need to do with the governor said we should do, adequately fund our pension system. we have not done that over the past 10-plus years. governors past and present have not done that. >> i take exception to that. >> if we keep up with that pattern, we will have a huge crisis. like a credit card bill, the balance goes up every year we do not fully pay off our debt. we have not paid our debt off over the last 10-plus years and are balance has gone up. we have got to stop doing that. have a new plan we can work with in terms of design for employees going forward. we need to pay the bill we did not pay for the past 10 years that we have not paid adequately. if we find a way to do that that does

so i think you got to look at it differently. >> all right, guys, let me ask you another question becauseone of the things that's been going on this week is the question are we at war and are we not at war and then you have mr. obama insisting on saying isil instead of isis and he and the secretary of state john kerry went out of their way to not label it a war and they've been calling it a counterterrorism effort and we have this whole war of words going. are these just word games, mark, is it a conscious choice with political implications? >> the critique of the president for saying isil instead of isis is absurd. i don't think there's some deep underhanded strategy to speak to a broader aspiration for u.s. military or isis or isil, the "l" in isil or "s" in isis, it means the same thing. the big one is war or not. the bigger concern is war versus not war. this is a war and we're go diagnose be navigating a proxy war and that's just a reality and we have been for a very long time. and the idea of saying we don't have boots on the ground is also sort of absurd. we do have boots on the gr

. >> let me ask you this. >> no, let me just finish. i'm not going to get into hypotheticals, but you're presuming that iran and syria don't have a capacity to take on isil. i mean, who knows? i don't know what's going to happen here. let's start down this road. >> let me ask you about that then. what you are saying there is the potential that the u.s. would be coordinating with iran. >> no, i never said anything about coordinating. if we're failing and failing miserably who knows what they might make. >> you're prepositioning this on the notion that we'll fail. >> you said if we fail. well, i'll go back to the report. the number of people including former defense secretary gate has expressed his belief that it's not possible. a number of highly qualified military experts have said they do not believe that the the goal you have stated in your opening statement is -- >> there are lots of possibilities. there are lots of possibilities between here and there. the president has said he is not going to put american -- >> you mentioned iran.

let me let me ask you. >> i don't know if that is good thing. s strippers, that is out. totally different bachelor party is in. tell me about it. >> the bachelor parties i'm doing, center around adrenaline, once in a lifetime activities like usual stuff you see in the hangover or something like that. so we're doing extreme adventures like jumping off stuff, whether out of a plane. melissa: jump off stuff randomly. >> jumps from the stratosphere. like f-16 simulator. craziest things i ever done. melissa: first bachelor party you planned was in ukraine? tell me about that. >> one of my best friends. i plan ad bachelor party in ukraine. he lived in london at the time. he is now living in miami. i said at the time where is a good spot to do it? melissa: you thought ukraine? >> i visited kiev before, thought it was a great city. granted current circumstances forget about that. >> right. >> years ago it was awesome. you could drive tanks and shoot machine guns and flame throwers. melissa: but do that? >> yeah. and i set that up. and we just -- melissa:

weaponry as well. >> let me ask you this, this is a hard question to answer. there are so many examples in the last 25-30 years of unintended consequences about making decisions about who we back and fight in the middle east. think this forward. it seems obvious to americans and the world that we have to put our back. >> defeating the islamic state group as they are called now. are there unintended consequences we should worry about today? >> in the middle east there are always unintended consequences. and in battling i.s.i.s., we don't know what the blowblack will be on some allies, like jordan and lebanon, do we want the syrian regime to fall tomorrow? would that be in our best interests given the fact that it's not just i.s.i.s. that we are dealing with, but we are dealing with the nusra front, part of al qaeda. they gi their allegiance to the leader of al qaeda. you have the islamic front, a grouping of organizations that want sharia law imposed in syria, even though there are plenty of groups in syria that don't adhere to sharia law, and whose religious t

if they do it here, hopefully they are more than mature, doing country. >> let me ask you this. you tweeted this comment from the council: >> it qatar trying to have it both ways like saudi arabia. >> in some ways it is. if we take the suicide bombing-justifying cleric given vip treatment inside qatar, that's one thing. qatar says they stand for modesty plur assy, openness, but being home in an extreme cleric in terms of justifying suicide bombing, and most saudi cleric would not go that far. there's a problem with qatar trying to have it both ways. yes, being modern, wanting great openness, and trying to be a home to taliban, hamas. that gives out mixed messages, and qatar ritely wants to be embraced by the international community and deserves the embrace, and has to shed the baggage of trying to bank roll extreme forms of islamist voices out there. >> thank you for joining us. "consider this" will be right back. >> al jazeera's investigative unit has tonight's exclusive report. >> stories that have impact... that make a difference... that open your world... >> this is what we d

let me ask you for a minute about your experience in the airline in general. you were with jetblue for some time. a couple of airlines -- american airlines recently posted record profit. i almost don't think of airlines as being businesses that make money. is it just that they're good at hedging fall? are they really just fuel company? >> no. actually, you know, southwest, you know, zoont made profit for several years -- wouldn't have made profit for several years. of the same bet against it would put you out of business. japan airlines went out of business. the money today is in fees and so much capacity has come out of the market. there's been so much consolidation with all the recent mergers. there's more price discipline and less seats available. so you're going to pay more for seats that are there. the air industry doing a better job matching compass 270 demand. unfortunately that means higher -- capacity to demand. unfortunately that means higher prices for us. >> but ancillary fees, you mean fees for checking your bag, chips and soda -- >> $200 change fe

and it's not appropriate to start announcing, will this country do this, do that. >> schieffer: let me ask you this, going back to what you said, you said you're not looking for troops on the ground, do you really think you can destroy isil without -- without troops on the ground? how does that work? >> bob, there are troops on the ground that don't belong to us they're called syrian. the syrian opposition is on the ground. one of the regrettable things is, it has been fighting isil by itself over the course of the last couple of years. and it's one of the reasons that they have had difficult battle. now with the air support and other effort from other countries, they will be augmented in their capacity. one of the things the president put in plan is the effort to increase the training, increase the equipping, advising to the syrian opposition and i can't tell you whether some of the country and neighborhood will or won't decide to put some people in there. we know the united states is not going to do that. but as i say, this is a strategy coming together as the coalition comes together and co

we're looking for the same. >> let me ask you, we know ambassador stevens had requested on multiple timesitional security. you knew about that. >> uh-huh. >> why did we deny -- why did the secretary of state deny the security that he felt was deemed necessary to protect that consulate? >> you know, i can't climb into the secretary of state's head and figure out why she did what she did or what happened the way it happened. we do know that talking with the state department guys after the fact that they did send the request. they asked for help. >> asked for additional personnel. >> many times. >> yeah. and you have a u.s. ambassador traveling to one of the most dangerous cities in the world with five security personnel. >> it didn't make much sense to us, but again, us not working with the state department, you know. >> i became friends in this process -- i know sean smith's mom, pat. and i know charles woods, you were there when charles woods died -- >> tyrone. >> i'm sorry. charles woods is the father. tyrone died. >> he was right beside me. >> he got nailed with shrapnel. >> yes. >> thi

street at msnbc for a couple of years working on "morning joe," but i'm thrilled to be here. >> let me ask youbout, you know -- >> yeah, yeah. you can say it without laughing. >> sarah palin. how's that? >> so -- >> can i ask three specific questions? >> yes. >> okay. one, what was it like when you first met her? two, did the winking get on your nerves? and three, when did you want to just pop her? >> okay. when i first met her, i just had an emergency, what's it called, root canal. i was on vicodin, and i'm like, it must be the drugs, but i have no idea who this is. so, i went out, who is this one? who did we go with? so, she was pretty cool first time i met her, but our relationship really erupted and exploded, and it was irreparably damaged after the katie couric interview when she thought i had set her up for failure and i felt like the questions were pretty fair. she asked her what she read, you know. so, that was sort of the end of the end. >> nicolle wallace doing a very good job there, thomas. >> she did a great job. maybe since she took vicodin, maybe she helped with the blurred lines

stop and think about that for a moment. >> host: let me ask you about race. you talk about political correctness and i look at the last 30 years and i think when i grew up we had more honest discussions in the 70s about race than we do today. we are actually afraid to have a conversation. something happens, somebody attacks the president and we say we are going to have a real conversation about race and then we don't. let me start first with this. do you believe that some people are against the president simply because of his race? >> guest: i am sure there are some people because of the color of their skin. i don't think there's a large number of people anymore. i do think people are very much influenced by their perceptions so for instance if somebody told you you know carson is evil, terrible guy and he's scheming all the time and then you met me, you would interpret everything i did. if somebody on the other hand said he's a really nice guy and he loves everybody you would say okay i can see that too. if somebody is always looking for racism no matter what

general, let me ask you we keep hearing reports of setting up a no-fly zone in northern syria. is that a good idea? and what does that entail? >> i worry sometimes that when people say impose a no-fly zone there is almost antiseptic view this is an easily accomplished military task. it was extraordinarily difficult having overseen imposes a no-fly zone in libya, a force that is interior in air force and air defenses which exists in syria it is a high-risk operation. can you do it and the air force the united states air force and the aviation components of the navy and the marine corps, the best in the world unmatch and they can do it. but it drives the risk up high >> schieffer: what does it entail? >> it entails we should make no bones about it. killing a lot of people and destroying the syrian air defenses and the people are manning those systems. and then it entails destroying the syrian air force preferably on the ground and in the air if necessary. this is a violent combat action that results in lots of casualties and increased risk to our personnel >> schieffer: what abou

it's very difficult. >> let me ask you about the yoil market, global oil market. his is not just a u.s. story, this is the global market. you have operations in australia where you made big investmentsÂq and the entire lng shale story is a story of growth for chevron. where does the growth come from for chevron and where are the opportunities for shale. >> we have a growth story that's second to none. we'll grow our oil production 20% between now and 2017. there are big projects we have in australia and lng projects. we have deepwater projects here in the united states. and then we got the shale resolution that's taking place. we have a very large base in the permean basin. in north america we have close to 4 million acres of shale or related resource. there's a tremendous opportunity for us and we'll continue to spend money here. it's in the consumers' interest. two things that the consumer may not know in this country. the reduction of natural gas prices brought on by the shale revolution since 2008 has put $80 billion into consumers' pockets. and the oil product

. >> let me ask you this question, would you desire yourself ever want to join isis and fight with them considering you think their cause is so noble? >> well, you know, sean, isis don't exist anymore as you know. the islamic state is made up of many organizations and bodies. millions of citizens are living there under the sharia. of course i would love to live under the sharia. i've said that before. i would like to bring up my children. and my -- it makes it difficult for me to travel now. >> do you believe that suicide bombers get 72 virgins in heaven if they kill innocent men, women and children? >> you know, nobody will kill innocent men, women and children. in the battlefield you know people kill each other. >> talking about suicide bombers. >> tommy franks -- >> suicide bombers go into open marketplaces and blow themselves up and there are people there that are nonpolitical that get killed. do you believe when they go to heaven that allah gives them 72 virgins? >> this is just not the reality. if you look for example at the marketplaces in afghanistan and pakistan, usually you fi

. >> let me ask you this, you said businesses need more customers. that's another way of saying i've got enough stuff on my shelves. i've got enough workers, i've got enough. there is a theory that we've been building capacity for so long, the workers, the plant, the materials, the goods we need. now we'reover capacity, and there is no way we're going to see more robust hiring until we burn off some of the that capacity. until we're short of workers, short of factories, short of goods, do you agree? >> what i'm hearing from--you look at the auto industry. sales are at the highest levels than 2006. you look at consumer confidence, highest levels since 2007. auto sales are risk. companies--the average person in manufacturing is working 42 hours a week. we're seeing progress in this area. but what we see you look at inflation-adjusted spending by the top 5% since the end of the recession it's crease increased 15 and 16%. you look at inflation adjusted spending, it's increased 1%. that's because we've had flat wages. that's because they just don't have m

work things out and negotiate, he said there's one way to deal with isis only, crush them. >> let me ask you both this question, i think when people use -- and i talked to you about this earlier. people use the nazi analogy. so often out of context, it's overused, i don't think so in this case. you know, a master race, this is a master religion. here they have more land, more money, more brutal tactics and there's this idea of a caliphate that they want to advance for life or convert or die. what is the difference between that and naziism? they want to destroy israel, they want to destroy the west, convert or die. what's the difference? >> well, the difference is the nazis didn't plan to take over the whole world. the caliphate does. my concern is that six months from now when this has proved to be mission impossible when the moderate sunni -- i mean the moderate shiite armies don't materialize -- >> don't get the job done. >> when the iraqis don't get the job done. when there is no coalition, then we're going to have three choices. we leave without defeating isis. we send in big boots on th

obviously a groundswell of outrage here but not from the people who he answers to. >> terry, let me ask youbout that because if you listen to john, roger goodell holds onto his job. women's organizations have thought about reaching out to the companies that have deals with the nfl on targeting them. >> absolutely. the sponsors of the nfl are very much a part of the nfl community and, in fact, they are some of the most powerful entities within the nfl community. so absolutely, we are talking about reaching out to the sponsors. i was very heartened to hear that senator jill brand has suggested that there might be hearings in the united states senate to try to get at the questions that we have called for. we've called for an independent investigator. hopefully hearings might bring answers to some of the questions about the executives, the owners, and the commissioner of the nfl and why is it that they have responded so abysmally to the existence of domestic violence. >> terry, let me follow on that. we watched what happens with the violence against women act which bare ll lly got over the fini

. >> let me ask you, you talked about british prime minister cameron, his rhetoric and his plan. the british government is going to propose a measure tomorrow in the parliament that would make it easier to seize the passports of people believed to be isis sympathizers, fighters, so they could neither go to the area or come back. is that something you would like to see in this country? >> we would have to be careful how we do it, not to restrict u.s. citizen travel, but i think there's a way through great means of collecting evidence to slow down the individuals. you could also charge them when they come back with material support for terrorism. we have a law on the books, we should use it and be aggressive using it. you have a few of those prosecutions up front, people get less aggressive about traveling overseas. >> i want to turn to a very serious situation in ukraine, russian troops, russian military inside. they refuse to call it an invasion, and they're also sending mixed messages. take a look at this. >> russia has to stop lying and has to stop fueling this conflict. the ma

when we go back after the election that has to be a major point of debate. >> schieffer: well, let me ask youtressing there will be no ground troops involved in this. you heard me talking to samantha power about this very thing. this is the president boxing himself in here by stressing what we are not going to do should he be talking more about what we may have to do and that we have to do what is necessary here? >> well, the president -- excuse me. has a strategy. that strategy, i think, had something that was very special. that is a majority of republicans and a majority of the senate supporting him and that is the first time i think this has happened in a long time. so it is something very special. i think it is safe to say it is a strategy. now strategies develop. i believe understand what general dempsey have said but i think we need to deal with use of force in a -- and the general nature in an amendment perhaps to the authorization to use military force, perhaps in something separate that deals with nonstate actors who are real threats to our country and who are creating massive violen

and that is not an insignificant relationship. >> let me ask you this.isis beheadings in the news. then you have isis this week calling for lone wolfs to go out and kill in america and other countries. then you have this incident in oklahoma. it would seem on the surface to be connected in my view. it's too early to tell. an investigation has to come through, but i can hear people already saying, well, you don't know that. the resistance even there to put those dots together when it's very likely to be that way especially looking at this guy's facebook page. what's your reaction? >> but even if they are not connected by communication or direct orders, they obviously are drawing their inspiration from an ideology which is spread largely on the internet. but a lot of it in mosques around the world in prayers and transmitted, you know, for instance the guys who did the bombing in boston. they weren't immune from this in the united states, they get it from sources, they share the ideology. and i think it's very important that we name it. and we talk about it

denial and stigma are still... >> let me ask you. what do you expect to happen next in terms of the government and medical response? >> they need to be more workers, and isolation and treatment facilities scaled up in all the countries. on top of this [ inaudible ] ebola. >>> okay. thank you for your time. >>> senegal, meantime, closed its 300km border with kinnee to prevent the virus from spreading. it's difficult because there's not enough police to patrol the area, so vigilantes are taking the matter into their own hand. >> these are three teenagers taking the law into their hands. they patrol the border arresting anyone they suspect of coming into the country illegally. he asked these people where they are fro. >> we are so close to guinea, and there are so many dying of ebola. we need to make sure they don't come into our country and kill us all. >> to reassure the population, the government closed its border with guinea and promised to step up patrols. we have seen no evidence of that. >> we are worried. the border is 300km long

. >> let me ask you this. you talk about the passion, you are right, anyone that nose anyone from scotland nose it's a country of great passions. there's a young voting aim, a lot of younger people are, in typical fashion embodying that passion, and older ones are conservative, and that is how the vote is breaking down. >> it is the plit is the younger people have an optimism of the future of getting involved in politics. people should be educated about politics. you have my father and grandfather, remembering the thatcher years, poll tax, closing of ravens craig and steel mill and mother well that destroyed a community and cost a lot of jobs. you have the younger, and the older resentful about it. it's difficult to find where passions. >> let me ask you this. you have a pub. how heated does the conversation get. are there bar fights about it. >> no, ours is a yes pub and many know i was a no voter, and a few ended up on my car on hub caps, it's god fun. scots are friendly, it's easy to have a laugh about it. i

let me ask you that question. wered senator udall's questions about the way we can keep arms from flowing to islamic extremist groups. why are you confident -- how you can give us confidence that we are not going to train a fighting force that will enter a battle with a known affiliate of al qaeda and how confident are we that when we get on the field of battle they aren't going to look to isis, who is fighting the same enemy that they orhwinally entered into battle against, assad, in common cause? >> senator, there's no fail safe, obviously. as i said earlier and in answer to an earlier question, our guys have gotten much, much better at the vetting. now that we're doing the training to some degree and hopefully do it openly, we're going to be in a much better position to do command and control, to do much greater in-depth accountability, if you will. in the end, there probably will be strange bed fellow moments in the course of this kind of battle. it would be crazy if i sat here and said, it will never happen. t

let me ask you a question. why they different then simply having dumbbells and barbells and working with weights. you know everything, i'm sitting there going to the gym. there it is everything's right there. everything is balanced nicely. i'm like i don't have to balance this. because it's not this. everything's right there, right? that's, that's, that's the main thing-- that's the problem, i like that part. and that's what's so appealing about standard training cause you feel you get a good pump. this, that the other thing. the thing that you have to think about, is you said it exactly. everything's balanced. it's balanced for you. the thing with the kettlebell is it's got a center of gravity. what we call the cog. what if i hold like this? okay. well-- please tell me this is a thirty/thirty five pound. it's twenty two pounds. haha oh man that's not a good sign. okay and, and, what does one do with this? well, you do a myriad of movements. me, personally, i practice somewhere around one hundred and seventy mo

i don't think you can desegregate them. >> let me ask you about the two presidencies involved in this initiative that aren't represented on the stage. and president clinton, i'm going to begin by asking you about 41. even though you haven't written a book that will be out on november 11th. about 41. >> i think i can put one together and be ready by the middle of -- be ready for the christmas season. [laughter] >> you have worked a lot with 41 in your post presidency and you're known to be very close with him. what leadership attributes of 41 do you think have impressed you most and are the ones you want to inculcate through the leadership program? >> when you're dealing with president bush 41, there are a couple of things that are never in doubt, and i think this is really important. his good will is never in doubt. and this was true before he was 90. we've been working together for a long time. been out of office a long time. he did things when most people were at an age where they'd stopped doing things. jimmy carter did the same thing. have to respect that. he is 90. just went to c

they regrouped and then they came storming back as we know only too well. >> let me ask you because certainlys announced this action. do you think that's actually helped boost recruitment efforts for isis? >> there's a very good chance of that. really, president obama will find this coalition building and this slow building up of other armies, other partner forces on the ground to be a very difficult task because they are unlike any other force according to secretary hagel that we've ever seen, the most well funded, the best command of social media, the most able to galvanize and attract westerners and this is something that president obama has now come out and said that he's going to be committed to. in the weeks to come what will be problematic is not only the challenge of meeting it globally but here at home trying to keep the congress and country together on a sustained effort that will eventually involve real boots on the ground. he's continuing to not say that this is a war or not and say there's boots on the ground. there are boots on the ground. numbers nearing 2,000 now. they may be

. >> i think i will, and let me ask -- >> are you going to blame apple for this? >> let me ask you a question. what do paris hilton, scarlett johannson, and sarah palin all have in common? >> beauty. >> something else. they were all hacked by easy to guess, security questions. i think it's high time that apple figured out -- apple and everybody el, that these dopey security questions like your mother's maiden name, which i can find on geniologcom, those should be thrown out and we should start over with another system. >> all right. well, the fact is, steve, i frankly think hackers are always going to be in some areas one step aheadf the creators of things. don't you have to go back to the hackers themselves? they are t ones who did this, right? >> mike is right. it is stolen property, and i think that to blame apple, i mean, they act -- the pentagon, the iranians hack our banks. this is a real problem, and while this gets publicity because these are celebties, the fact of the matter is this stolen property, and the hackers should be hunted down if we can. >> well,

if you duck that decision, you don't belong here. >> let me ask you this, it was only a year ago the esident was asking you and your colleagues in congress to rally around the air strikes against assad in syria for the use of chemical weapons against his own people. is the isil threat a bigger problem for america? >> i supported the president. i met at the white house with his chief of staff, denis mcdonam mcdonough and other republicans who supported the president on that. the president made that request at the last minute. i publicly supported it. this year, i think what has changed is when people thought of chemical weapons in syria, they thought it was just people in syria that were going to be killed. now seeing the brutal executions of americans by isis is brought home to the american people how deadly, vicious and diabolical isis is. and that's brought pressure on the members of the congress. >> let me ask you about this so-called blank check. it's a fund the president has had in front of congress for about five or six months now. it's about $500 million -- excuse, $5 billion t