so this kind of interest is perfectly letimate, nothing undemocratic orim legal about it. but they have become so powerful now that they have beco really barriers to making any major change that affects their status. >> i think our standing around the world is lower than any time in my memory, substantially lower than any time in our memory. 80% of the american people think we are on the wrong track. so we have to return to a situation where america's reputation can be restored, and doing so, i think we have to begin to solve problems not through armed forces but through the soft power that has been so effective around the world this won't happen overnight it will take a lot of work over at least a decade but america has enormous inner strength and i've got great confidence in the future if we simply will get back on the track of wanting to be friely power for the rest of the world despite our enormous per. >> you get a chance to serve the most important cabinet position in our government. what was your-- evaluate those four years for us. >> you know, i think i would have